Kinki Studio EX-P7 pre-amp


Object of a trade with a fellow audiophile, a Kinki Studio EX-P7 has joined my system.

Not that I was looking for a pre-amp but a trade deal was proposed and I have accepted it, mainly for a deep curiosity about Kinki Studio products and sound.
From the photos the built quality was impressive and so was the apparent care put on the design… but what about the sound. A couple of online reviews were helpful to understand the fundamentals about the functions and possible sound signature, although it is important to underline the existence of two versions, without any differences on the labeling or outside design. Mine is the latest, made in 2023.

So one weekend morning I went to the owner’s house to make the trade and after handing the volume knob I have notice a strange thing: on certain volume positions there was a “pop” sound on the speakers. Always on the same position and when I use only the remote control the same happened. That really turn cold my interest in the EX-P7.
Then I’ve decided to investigate it and the first thing to do was write to Kinki Studio (contact email on the website) and explained the situation (gave the serial number and attached a video), but I didn’t had any answer back.
Then I remembered that Alvin helped me immensely in the past with my Denafrips Pontus II firmware settings, so pushing the rope, I tried to contact Vinshine Audio, but again no luck.
After a bit more online search, I found on Audiogon, a great comment of the wonderful customer service provided by Todd at Tek Audio Specialties (https://www.tekaudiospecialties.com) that is the retailer and service for Kinki Studio and several brands on North America and voilà, I got an answer back!
After a couple of emails and Todd’s commitment, I finally got an official answer from the factory:

As per designer’s advice , the relay-controlled
attenuator remains a superior choice.
The primary objective behind the analog volume control design of the
EX-P7 preamp was to deliver a low noise, low distortion, detailed, and
uncolored sound reproduction.
This goal has been successfully achieved through the use of a
relay-controlled attenuator, which employs multiple relays and
resistors to attenuate the volume.
Although the switching of the relays, at certain steps like 32 , 52 ,
64 , may result in an audible pop /click sound, this is completely
normal and does not pose any harm to the amplifier or loudspeakers.
You may explain to customers that the noise may be annoying , but it
does not introduce voltage levels high enough to harm the components.
If the voltage levels are high enough , it may trigger protection
circuits.


Many many thanks to Todd! Helping a fellow here in Europe is what I call a truly great customer (!) service.

As Todd explained, most likely it was a busy period at Kinki Studio HQ (right after the national holidays) but I wished that the factory response was direct and sooner.


So, I have gone through with the trade and am listening to the EX-P7 at home.
The “pop” sounds are far less noticeable than what I have experienced in the previous owner system (to be analyzed in separate) and I am enjoying it, a complete different beast than the Rogue RP-1 that usually pair with the NAD C275BEE power amp.
The Kinki is immediately more silent (black background), transparent, with superior resolution and detailed mids and highs… but it needs a warmer and perhaps powerful power amp (I have it on the low gain setting).
It is not as engaging pairing as the Copland CSA70 that I had yesterday on the system, but is exciting enough to make me want to explore and invest on a new power amp… and just now, when I was decided in downsizing the system!

 

audiofilo123

Congrats @audiofilo123 I have to say your system bears a striking resemblance to a gent I know as Naka9. ;) And glad the downsizing is still going well for you! :P

Wow, that is truly a gorgeous setup Audiofilio :) Thanks for sharing. And you are very welcome, thank you for your kind patience. I’m glad to hear its playing well for you and you could listen.

-It seems likely to me now that the other system has more DC leakage or offset than your system, and the Kinki gear is DC coupled (thankfully) (and if I recall correctly) so small DC amounts on the input can indeed affect it.

In general, gear that is AC coupled on the output (through a capacitor) can leak DC into the next device input, amount depending on the cap used, how much DC voltage is being blocked, the time applied and such. Non-film caps being the biggest offenders of that in general. For example, classic Naim gear uses a single supply rail in their preamps (+24v) and polarized tantalum caps to couple. Other gear might use electrolytic caps. Both have leakage that matters in cases like this IME. Big turn on thumps, anyone? :) It wasn’t the end of the world though and I personally enjoyed an LP12/NAC42.5/NAP140 system for many, many years. But we digress a bit..

I’ll be very curious to hear about your power amp pursuit. The cabling also matters mightily of course in pursuing the right recipe. Along the amp lines though, I also have great interest in that and lately here I’ve been working on a "super" Thallo amp project and it sounds amazing. The Thallo design approach tics all the boxes we need for achieving the best possible results IMO and IME, and we just have to improve a few things to take it over the top :) It’s DC coupled in and out for best transparency, it’s a true balanced design through it so it also treats its PSU very kindly compared to most designs; it’s a 2 stage amp rather than the usual 3 stage approach (so it has much lower noise and is out of the way), drives both the speaker outs actively like a bridge, etc. I do get rather excited talking about these things :D lol..

TK