I'm not 100 percent sure what you mean Kenjit! Both of these speakers do fine bass and the amp I have is more than enough to reach lo, low bass on these, you do sound like a person that would believe that Devialet Phantoms are the best speakers in the world. Also, I haven't bought any of them yet and cannot go trial them as I am in a country where I have to ship these speakers from abroad and there is a bit of a pandemic going around! In all fairness, you sir, are not ready to be an audiophile! If you really don't care then you should definitely not be an Audiogon member!