Jazz for aficionados

Yes, I did . I just thought that flute was something to hear !

Going over to see  about a violin sonata with one Julia Fisher.

I can’t I say I am a freak for Grieg but I have listened to "Peer Gynt" at least a Thousand times ! Soothing .......... , I sure respect him .

Thanks frog.  I've never been a major fan of big bands, but the TJ&MLBB is one I enjoy.  And it was fun watching Thad direct in that video.

And that reminded me of one of my favorite Monk albums - 

Grieg?  Huh?! 😊

Lovely sonata indeed.  I’m sure you know it was not composed as a flute sonata.  Composed as a violin sonata and transcribed/arranged for flute by others.

pjw, yes, Woody Shaw was there.  Great shows and a lot of excitement in the air.  The shows I attended were at the Village Vanguard, not the Village Gate.  The recording in acman’s clip is from those shows at the Vanguard.  Nice KC/FB!

 Frogman I have a question.

When you saw Dexter Gordons homecoming tour in the late 70's was Woody Shaw playing trumpet on the dates you were there?

Here is one of the dates

Dexter Gordon 1978 Exclusive Gigs Series: Strollin (ft. Woody Shaw) - YouTube

This Woody Shaw album is a classic

Woody Shaw-Moontrane Full Album - YouTube

Frogman that Thad Jones Mel Lewis video is excellent. Thanks for posting it.

Here is another of the great big bands, the Kenny Clarke Francy Boland Big Band.

Kenny Clarke and Kenny Ware play seamlessly on the drums.

Johnny Griffen plays a masterful solo on tenor and Idrees Suliman adds a short but powerful trumpet solo. I have about a dozen KCFBBB cd’s and they are all superb.

1 of 11 Kenny Clarke Francy Boland Big Band - Griff’s Groove - YouTube

Another live KCFBBB featuring Dizzy on trumpet 

Dizzy Gillespie & Kenny Clarke/Francy Boland Big Band 1970 - YouTube

Hall isn’t as good and audience smaller . So there!    Grieg's lovely flute Sonata is on  next door .

I"m a bit nuts , I don’t hear solos in the great big-bands . To me they are just one instrument . My mom said I ran to the radio to hear all the big-bands at age 3 .

They got "When Johnny Comes Marching Home " in the way a long serving soldier would understand ,WAR ..

Gee, do they like Jazz in Amsterdam , few folks showed up.?

Lucky jazz  , it seldom gets played  in the greatest hall in the world !

@jim5559 

I wasn't trying to start an argument, or even disagree with you.  Just pointing out that jazz (like audiophilia) is a very, very small niche in the world, and has been for quite a long time.  It happens to have been on my mind recently, and your comment brought it to mind, again.  That's all.

In a year jazz sells a bit more recordings than Classical does in USA .

I don't disagree.  I'm just saying that's like saying more people watch field hockey than watch race-walking. Not many people watch either one. 

I could not say much about the state of jazz affair in scandinavian countries (as there is lot of new jazz coming from there) but as fas as Germany or Italy is concerned (I am ofthen there, in various places) jazz is not so 'popular' among 'younger' crowd. I spend lots of time in Berlin, there are few nice clubs where jazz is played live on regular basis, but the places are not that big and not really overcrowded (if anywhere else is different)

Even in Perugia, in Italy, the town which hosts second largest jazz festival in Europe (Umbria jazz) and known as university town, there are not much jazz going on, outside the festival times.

One should look at record sales to know for sure (or perhaps not, as everyone stream these days) to be certain, but looking at department stores, the classical department is always much bigger and with more customers, at least in ones that I have been.

Here is one link, my favourite and biggest record, book and movie store in Berlin. In fact the department with classical music occupies the whole floor, in the basement, biger than all the ohers combined. (click on the photo to scroll for more photos)

https://www.kulturkaufhaus.de/de/musik/vinyl

Sorry, I wasn't very clear.  I didn't mean Copenhagen doesn't have enough people.  I meant jazz doesn't have enough people.  The "nation" of jazz isn't big enough to need a capital city.  Very few people play it anymore.  Very few people listen to it anymore, and most of us don't listen to the people who currently play it.  We listen to the classics.

Copenhagen is a large city and the capital of Denmark , with 20 million tourists a year.

UN says it is the best city in the world to live in , I wouldn’t argue .

I am sure  it is one of them .

I'm not sure jazz rates a capital anymore. Not enough people live there.

Jazz Capital  of the World 

Here one of the Greatest jazz artists tells it like it IS !

One reason is what the best historians know but want to eat , America is not the

new country but the oldest .

“supreme cool and timing”.  Exactly!  

Great Al and Zoot.  One of the great pairings in Jazz.  The two were part of the famous “Four Brothers” saxophone section in Woody Herman’s band.  Unusual in that the section consisted of three tenors and a baritone.  Hadn’t heard this one.  Thanks!

@frogman  Fabulous find Mr. Frog.  Miles was already Miles - flubbing some notes but supreme cool and timing.  Great arrangements!  Here too:

More to my taste than most Davis stuff . Have to tract down Sonny on the "bone" !

Al Cohn, fine composer as well as arranger.

Little known Miles record:

"E.S.P.":

Gonsalves was a madman.

Lee Morgan (gone 50 years now).

I loved Al Coln , smooth and steady , like me !

He and the Great Barry Harris could play for me all day and half the night.AL was a fine arranger as well with Woody Herman big band,

Kurt Elling

Harold Mabern

This lady sold a million in the year before at 83 .

Perhaps the best backing Columbia ever made , easy to find .

You WILL beat your feet . No album on here.

And you will laugh hard and be very glad you got it . AMTRAK  BLUES

Yes I know , but if the strongest im -prov genius could have a trio with the slickist 

one , the earth could cry . 

I'm no genius , but I can hear Sonny  make two moves over at the same time

in less than a second , keep doing it and  make the melody of any standard be is

with im-proving all the way ,

And them better with out seeming to do so. Was like the Hudson flooding vs a baby bottle .

I think his genius is not nearly  known as it should be .

I have previously referred to our contributor Jafant as “the Jazz crier”.  He was first to simply name an artist.  I always took it as simply an acknowledgment of an artist worth exploring, or possibly an artist who is on his play list at the moment.  Kind of an even more minimalist version of my own Jazz birthdays postings.  Speaking of which:

Happy birthday Wardell Gray!

acman3, your succinct reply to my question about brevity was appropriate, so I saw the humor in that.

But I realized I should not have included a simple album posting.  Those typically seem to either answer a previous question or offer a recommended listing, at least when a link to the album/performance is included.

So I think now I should have ask why simply state an artist's name?  What do we infer from that?

Mingus and Stitt. To the best of my knowledge they never recorded together. Hard to believe. Factoid: Stitt recorded more records as a leader than any other Jazz artist. An astounding 106!

Took me a year or three to figure this was controlled chaos in F minor .

Brahms would have done it in a few hours ,

Hear is the best Church of the best Christians in America !

Hands down the power of his VOICE is more than any other instrument !

Trying to come to all things of God alone is like a dog chasing his tail .

frog person has made it clear to me why Mingus was the first jazzman

that called to me and still does . If only he had Sonny Stitt in his band !

I personally like to read a "justification" about an album.... Personal one, objective one, or all at the same time, a 2 line justification or a text...

This short or long justification make a recommendation personal like an article about the album....I personally focus on YOUR text to communicate WHY you love something...List without explanation had not much appeal for me...

Why not an explanation for most recommendations save the most evident one? Who need to read a reason to recommend the Beatles or Ella Fitzgerald? Save a personal one...But many known artists must be made more well known...Itr takes sometimes a motivation to listen to someone new in our world...

For example in my 2 line last post,i chose to be short, i spoke about the "pulse" behind all the trumpets summit music album.... If someone listen to this cd he will discover something rare or not so frequent: All the musicians dont play their part one after the other, they play PILOTED by a common pulse that make this album a masterpiece where all players blend whithout losing their personality at all and serve a higher goal....It is really a music piece not a public demonstration only...I listened to it many times ...

Perhaps frogman will help me to understand, confirm or infirm what i say.... He will be welcome because he KNOW how musicians feel playing together and how it translate into their dialoguing parts...

I can be wrong and all this fuss could be just my own making.or particular taste...

Pryso, yes

I think that all your questions fit, pryso, depending on the fact of who is reading...:---)

Or maybe it is a simple reminder...like the one we keep on the fridge, such as "buy milk"

An honest question:

When aficionados post only the name of an artist or album, what is your intent?

Are you simply reminding us of that person or album?

Are you recommending them/it?

Are you looking for discussion about them or it?

I'm simply puzzled why when I see that.