Jazz for aficionados
@audio-b-dog I used to have over 5000 CD’s. I ripped a bunch and just plain gave away a bunch, but I still have about 2500 left. A lot are old favorites like the Beatles and I have many that aren’t on Amazon and Qobuz (the two services I currently have). So I’ll probably play a few hundred disks and then go back to streaming. I really enjoy finding new to me music especially Jazz. All the best. |
Here’s another album I got from my pawn shop buddy: Charlie Byrd | For All We Know - Love Story recorded live at Basin Street West, San Francisco - 1971 Full Double Album I was gonna post ’SONNY CLARK TRIO The 1960 Sessions w/ George Duvivier and Max Roach’ Full Double Album but that was already posted here some years ago by @orpheus10, I think? |
@alexatpos, Oh ok? Thanks man! Marcos Valle - The Lost Sessions - 1967 This guy is kinda like the Stevie Wonder of Brazil, with a prolific amount of music he has put out over the years. If you may be of interest in his music, click on this Marcos Valle - Topic link and you will find almost a 1000 videos with I don't know how many of his albums are there.
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@tyray , We have probably covered Webster and Hawk along these pages somewhere, but still, here are few albums that you might like that are perhaps not so 'obvious'... Gentle Ben, Webster with Tete Montoliu Trio https://youtu.be/2c_P1-m0ThQ?feature=shared Webster with Zawinul 'Soulmates' https://youtu.be/rjJ-g2_3nDY?feature=shared Webster with Tatum (ok, thats classic) https://youtu.be/Y2YMl5o8sck?feature=shared
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@alexatpos, I’ve been digging the Dave McKenna Quartet featuring Zoot Sims 1973 album also...Love the double bass scatting too! The Ben Webster | Coleman Hawkins | Tenor Giants | 1957 and 1959 | Full Double Album is one I own that I bought in mint condition from a buddy of mine who works at a pawn shop as he knew I am an album head and I’m going to share some of those here. |
Jorge Ben - Samba Esquema Novo - 1963 Full Album @stuartk, this Jorge Ben album may be a good introduction to the music of Brasil as this album and especially the song ’Mas Que Nada!’ was a monster hit not only in Brasil but in the states too, for you to check out...And of course, everyone else here also. Jorge Ben Jor - The song Taj Mahal from the album Africa Brasil 1975 Jorge Ben changed his name to Jorge Ben Jor and in 1975 released the album Africa Brasil. At 2:23 of this song you will notice a striking resemblance to the Rod Stewart song of ’Do ya think I’m sexy’ and Jorge Ben Jor sued the ’bejeebers’ out of Rod Stewart for copyright infringement and won, big time. |
@alexatpos Me too! Ditto.. Ben Webster | Coleman Hawkins | Tenor Giants | 1957 and 1959 | Full Double Album
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@acman3 These two are perhaps also not known very well...just in case...
’Zoot at ease’ (on soprano and tenor) (1973) https://youtu.be/HYTbF6WabWk?feature=share Al Cohn and Zoot Sims ’Body and soul’ (same year, 1973) https://youtu.be/Rf_vF-rAxtA?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/67i_AhoFZRw?feature=shared https://youtu.be/8NwDVQG6T14?feature=shared
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@curiousjim, @tyray, I haven't been playing CDs since forever until I started contributing to this forum. Much of my jazz is on CD, SACD, and DVD Audio. I have a twenty-year-old McCormack multi-disk player and run it through my Moon 280 D Streamer, which I think is a great product for the money. For people who get up in the morning like I do, not quite ready for the world, a great soft, pretty album is Jobim's "Wave." It soothes my brainwaves. |
@acman3 (and others too) I do not know why, but this album has been issued under few different titles. Check it out, if you have not already, its a nice one Zoot Sims with Bucky Pizzarelli and Buddy Rich https://youtu.be/qrYs3ZVCpSs?feature=shared This one too... Dave McKenna Quartet feat.Zoot Sims |
@curiousjim, good for you. I recently sold my EVERSOLO DMP-A8 streamer, dac, preamp, so my Shanling ET3 Digital CD Transport is down right now too until I purchase another dac. I got about a thousand cd’s boxed up that I haven’t heard in years. |
I finally reinstalled my CD Transport to the system and was digging through a box of disks a pulled out Doin’ Alright. Dexter Gordon, Freddie Hubbard, Horace Parlin, George Tucker, Al Harewood. Originally recorded on May 6, 1961 in the Rudy Van Gelder studio and reworked by RVG in 2003.
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Zoot and Al |
@tyray, I think you are much more of a musical scholar than I am. I am more of a joyous listener, unapologetically listening to whatever pleases me. Van Morrison is often on my turntable. I went to a Robyn concert by accident and now I’m a fan of the Swedish lady. My musical listening generally changes from rock (jazz-influenced like Van Morrison, Everything But The Girl), jazz, and classical. I found that I liked Brazilian music by accident. So much in my life is by accident. But then I became a real fan. The first Brazilian song I heard that knocked my socks off was a cover of Wando’s "Nega Do Obaluae." If that doesn’t get you up and dancing then nothing will. I lost my copy in a divorce, and I scoured for years to find it again. I had to order it from a Brazilian seller. I studied classical guitar for several years, and I wanted to play VillaLobos’s Preludes. Technically, I was okay on a few of them, but I am not a musician. I do not feel the spirit and rhythm as a musician, but I do as a listener. If you haven’t listened to VillaLobos’s Preludes, I think you might like them. He also wrote choros, which I think came from being a street musician. He must have been influenced by older Brazilian music since he was born in 1887 and died in 1959. I am working on going through his string quartets which are difficult to sink my teeth into. Thanks for sending me videos. I’ll have to listen to them later and I’ll comment. |
@audio-b-dog, The first time I heard of Tania Maria it was the song Don’t Go - 1985(?) which was a minor hit in the states, she sung in english and the song was very very funky and at the time when it came to Brazilian artists I was listening to only Brazilian artists on US labels such as Airto Moreira, Eumir Deodato and Flora Purim, to name a few.Then in the early 2000’s I wanted to visit Brazil and started to listen to Brazilian based recordings to help with my learning of Portuguese and the culture of Brazil so Tania Maria’s music wasn’t something I listened to because I was listening to what would be described as her musical heroes from Brazil who had much older recordings that I was fascinated with. Artist like Candeia, Cartola and Os Tincoãs, to name a few. I was trying to find the essence of Brazilian music without any US influence, if you will. Real ’old school’ Brazilian music. As I said in an earlier post, I had it real bad in those days.Here is a video of the artists Os Tincoãs with their daughters of a song originally released in 1973(?) Mateus Aleluia e Thalma de Freitas - Cordeiro de Nanã | Compacto Petrobras. In this song they are singing to the deities in Candomblé, Orixás: Iansã , Obaluaê and Iemanjá. At the time I was trying to find and understand the root(s) of Brazilian music. This is a beautiful song straight out of and from the Recôncavo Baiano region of Bahia, Brazil.Now this album here, Vinicius + Bethânia + Toquinho - La Fusa (Mar del Plata) (1971) I’ve always liked this black and white album and thought it was a tour de force by the three artists together.@alexatpos, Outstanding music! You’ve posted something I can surely sink my teeth into! Thanks!
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@alexatpos, a bit of a sidestep into the "classical" world, but staying in Brazil. Hector VillaLobos was a Brazillian street musician as well as Brazil's most famous classical composer. His Preludes for guitar have all of the duende of the streets and Laurindo Almeida plays them absolutely beautifully with more depth of feeling than I've heard from any other guitarist. |
@stuartk No big deal it was all AI. |
Dizzy, 'Bahiana' album https://youtu.be/4LUK1VAk7ww?feature=shared Laurindo Almeida and Bud Shank 'Brazziliance' |
Wow -- thanks for all of that!
OK. Sorry for misunderstanding on my part. As it happens, today I discovered a Brazilian singer previously unknown to me that I really like (Not Jazz) : Marisa Monte. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znp7C0FlxBE&list=OLAK5uy_ldZeBZ3lelSLE3XOauZKVPNZwg16Ik260&index=2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgPaSv9_WCc&list=OLAK5uy_lvFBKo9UV7VSq3zZOuNQipK50igA3Aay8&index=2
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@tyray, Freddie Hubbard First Light, I own the 1971 album in perfect shape. One of my favorites. Although, I like Red Clay a bit more, probably because it's more earthy. No beautiful melodies like First Light. I have never been to Brazil, although I have been to Portugal and love the Portugese tongue. As I have mentioned, I have many albums from Brazil. If I hear something I like, I'll hunt it down. I don't know why you didn't respond to my post about Tania Maria. The woman's a master jazz pianist and she's got a hell of a voice. Here's a taste of her just playing piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owo8t6jmabI And here's a taste of her piano and fabulous voice. The only reason I know about her is that I went to a small jazz club in L.A. where I was the only white face in the audience and she absolutely bowled me over. Forty-three years ago, I hate to say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52iRJke0auA And here is a joyous album with Maria Bethania (a Bahia singer with real soul), Vinicius DeMoraes, and Toquinho. I particularly enjoyed the fifth cut "Samba Da Bencao" which was the "Samba Saravah" in "A Man and a Woman," written by Baden Powell and Vinicius DeMoraes |
@audio-b-dog, you are a man after my own heart. I bought this cd of Rosa Passos - "Pano pra Manga" [1996] (Álbum Completo) in Salvador da Bahia at Randy Roberts record store Cana Brava Records in the barrio of Pelourinho, the historic center of Salvador, Brazil. What a small world we live in, brother. When Brazilians speak (and sing) in their native Portuguese, the accent it has, they do so with and in a rhythm that comes with their cultural upbrings. And there’s nothing like it on earth. I also bought this cd too while I was there Banda Black Rio - Gafieira Universal - full album 1978 and this is a Rio Funk (pronounced ’funky’) album. And to think my intentions were to post a Freddie Hubbard album - First Light 1971 - full album...Hmm |
Wow! So much music, so little time. Even for me who listens all morning and most of the afternoon while I write, or at least try to. Sidenote: I wrote a poem for my novel and I wanted to make sure its meaning could be gleaned by at least someone on earth. I put it through chatgbt which I've avoided, within 5 seconds it had the most brillian analysis. I wonder if it will work for music? @tyray, "A Taste of Honey" has always gotten to me, ever since I saw the movie in the early sixties. I think there have been a number of versions. On the "Orpheus" album, "Manha De Carnaval" is from the film "Black Orpheus." It's been covered more times than I know about. Vince Guaraldi did perhaps one of the most famous covers on "Jazz Impressions of Black Orpheus." It was a must have when I began collecting jazz albums in the 60s and 70s. @stuartk and @foggyus91, I learned about Cuban jazz through David Byrne who has also done a number of albums on Brazilian jazz. I picked up a number of CDs of artists I liked from "The Buena Vista Social Club," like Omara Portuondo. I will look into some of your suggestions. This morning I have been listening to the wonderful Rosa Passos. First, her CD called "Rosa Passos & Ron Carter." But even better, I think, is Rosa Passos"s "Amorosa." This is a daring redo of Joao Gliberto's (of Getz Gilberto fame) "Amorosa." This might be a bit too syrupy for some like @foggyus91. My interpretation of syrupy at this point, until someone educates me, is that the music goes to your hips rather than your head. Broad brush, I know. Here's a sweet taste and I'll drink down all the syrup I can get. |
@stuartk, I didn’t take your Milton Nascimento’s Clube Da comment in anyway negative. In fact I was and are in complete agreement with you! @foggyus91, wonderful descriptor of Afro Cuban Jazz! Although your youtube example of Afro Cuban Jazz, CubaLandz: Afro Cuban Jazz | Concert | Bozar Jazz seems well, kinda schmaltzy and even amateurish at best. Now these are examples of Afro Cuban Jazz: Dizzy Gillespie - Manteca. I am a huge, big fan of the percussionista mastro Chano Pozo. Dizzy Gillespie about Chano Pozo and Manteca’s story I’m also a big fan of Mario Bauza, Machito, of course Tito Puente and Eddie Palmieri who incidentally along with a host of others introduced me to the music of the New York based group Fania All Stars music. I can only imagine being at the Palladium in New York in the late 1950’s and late 1960’s jamming with Tito Puente. +1 @frogman! Elis Regina (and Antonio Carlos Jobim) is an impeccable musician of immense talent. I can listen to and be captivated by Elis Regina for hours.
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https://youtu.be/PFgmhz8eWd4?si=O5Y9hAuArepjCvgs Afro-Cuban jazz. |
Afro-Cuban jazz, a style of Latin jazz, is a fusion of jazz's improvisational techniques and harmonies with the rhythms and instruments of Afro-Cuban music. It originated in the early 1940s in New York City and is characterized by the use of percussion instruments like congas, timbales, and bongos, along with the distinct clave rhythm. Key Characteristics of Afro-Cuban Jazz:
The clave is a foundational rhythmic pattern that provides a distinctive pulse to Afro-Cuban jazz.
While rooted in Afro-Cuban rhythms, Afro-Cuban jazz also incorporates jazz's harmonic structures and improvisational styles. The rhythm section often employs ostinato patterns, creating a driving and repetitive groove. Notable Figures and Bands:
A Cuban musician and composer who played a crucial role in the development of Afro-Cuban jazz. A prominent bebop trumpeter who collaborated with Chano Pozo to introduce Afro-Cuban rhythms into the East Coast jazz scene.
A Cuban percussionist who collaborated with Dizzy Gillespie and helped popularize Afro-Cuban rhythms in jazz.
The leader of "Machito and his Afro-Cubans," a band that played a significant role in the early development of Afro-Cuban jazz in New York.
A renowned percussionist and bandleader who helped to further develop and popularize Afro-Cuban jazz. A prolific keyboardist and bandleader who is well known for his contributions to the genre. History and Development:
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FYI, my intent wasn't to denigrate Clube da Esquina by pointing out it's not Jazz. I love that album! I've listened to many other Milton CDs and have yet to encounter one I enjoy nearly as much. In fact, I've listened my way through numerous lists of recommended Brazilian music and found very little that really captivates me. I wish this was not so.
Can you provide some examples contrasting the two?
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Love Brazilian musicians’ take on Jazz. For me, sexiest music on the planet. Thanks for the clips. https://youtu.be/-XExdVd7Qpw?si=UDeRD4z51jMFn7N5 This woman dripped Saudade! : https://youtu.be/76Se5hxy8hQ?si=_-UFR5bPyiHQY9a1 https://youtu.be/2fP6QyiyvMw?si=Zaphg-bruZtc8Nj2
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My turn...And in Portuguese too. Leny Andrade - Estamos Aí -1965 Full Album Os Cobras - O LP - 1964 - Full Album Baden Powell - Swings With Jimmy Pratt -1963 (FULL ALBUM) I like it when we stretch out here...It sharpens the musical mind muscle.
This may not be jazz, but this song is an Opus all of and on its own. Years ago I popped this cd in my car’s cd player as a friend and I were going to dinner and as she was singing the song and also surprised that I had a cd of one of her countrymen, she cried like a baby while singing cause she missed her Rio de Janeiro, Brazil somethin bad. The Brazilians have a word for what she was feeling, Saudade.
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@audio-b-dog, with the Isao Suzuki Trio – Black Orpheus Full Album (1976), I was always a sucker for some nice and easy Rhodes playing and the drummer just brushing away...A Taste Of Honey - Morgana King. Wow! And Yusef Lateef "Love Song From Spartacus," You're stretching out on these cuts. And these are tunes I've never heard before. @acman3, Mal Waldron Reminiscent suite and Black Forest very nice gems you've introduced me to here this morning. |
To my ears, Mal Waldron was, like Andrew Hill, and Horace Tapscott, a player who (in his own compositions at least) tended to take a simple motif and explore it in many subtle variations, as opposed to basing lines off complex harmonic changes. Rhythmic displacement and use of space are evident elements in his playing. All three players shared a similarly dark sound and percussive touch. Waldron recorded recorded albums of standards and albums featuring original tunes and spanned a gamut from inside to outside in the process. Three I particularly like: Seagulls of Kristiansund Left Alone '86 You and the Night and the Music He and S. Lacy were buddies and recorded several times together, for those who enjoy Lacy.
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@curiousjim, I listened to Mal Waldron's "Free at Last.." I liked it a lot. I'm still listening. Sometimes he reminds me of Keith Jarrett, perhaps my favorite jazz pianist. He's very good and I'm glad to have found him. I might have liked this album better than Glory because I was in a more open mood, or perhaps because Glory was recorded 44.1 khz, like a CD, whereas this one is at 96 khz and delivers a lot more depth on my stereo. It's especially important for the drums which have all kinds of soundstage cues that were flattened out on Glory. |
@curiousjim, I listened to Mal Waldron. It was a bit sparse for my taste and the bass/drum drone made it seem flat. I don't know if Waldron has that kind of vibe on his other albums. I will listen to him some more. A drone-type bass beat I do like can be found on Alice Coltrane's Journey in Satchidananda. In that case, the drone is like an Indian spiritual thing, and Pharoah Sanders' sax is as spiritual as John Coltrane was. One of my favorite albums. |
