Rok, this is my kind of jazz, it resonates with me totally. Frogman never understood how important my bright yellow double knit trousers with the low waist and very wide cuffs were in relation to the music at that same time. I thought those trousers were hot stuff at "that time", and there is a possibility he could have thought the same thing at "that time". I'm certain I thought the fusion he presented was hot stuff at "that time", because I bought it; but now his fusion and my bright yellow, double knit trousers with the low waist and wide cuffs, occupy the same place in my opinion WTF. (maybe his fusion rates higher than my trousers)
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Alex, these times have brought about an epidemic of rough personal problems; so common they are with me, it's how I know I'm alive.
Right now I'm listening to Randy Weston and Cecil Payne; they're so down to earth, this music is smooth and easy, the kind I could spend hours listening to.
The most interesting thing about music is how it takes on a life of it's own each time a different person hears it. While the original creator intended for it to take on a particular meaning, when someone else hears it, the music can take on a different even more interesting meaning than the original creator intended.
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Today's Randy Weston: Randy Weston -- AFRICAN SUNRISE (selections from the Spirits of our Ancestors) This is a CD comprised of tracks taken from the 2 CD set 'Spirits of Our Ancestors'. But these clips are off the youtube posting of "Spirits" I heard more Monk than Africa. I liked these two best, but I like it all. Dizzy Gillespie and Pharoah Sanders are special guests. Arrangements by Melba Liston. She and Randy have done quite of few albums together. She arranges and plays Trombone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6WT8JaDfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URkLE6GerP0 Cheers |
Been absent, rough period personally, now cought up, read few last pages that I missed. Rok, you made my smile (havent done that for days) couple of times, thank you. Keep using what ever you are taking, just tell me what is the name of the stuff. Orpheus, saw Randy Weston alive, at the end of 90's, still I like his earlier work, like this album from 1956. https://youtu.be/zze3gaTl8yMFrogman, suggestion for a year 1978. I would not call it a fusion,( its stated as avangarde/fusion) and the album is called 'New direction'... I belleive that even fusion 'haters' will like this song https://youtu.be/YVjX1EhNbLwLester Bowie is certainly a fine trumpet player, maybe somebody can share if has any good albums of him? Just to add the word to ever lasting discussion, Frogman, for me, much likings of some music depends of a tone of some particular player and the sound of his instrument. I would not go in details now, but there are some very acomplished players whose albums I dont have, because I dont like the tone/sound of their instrument. From some others, I feel like I could listen random notes or accords and still like it. Some of the music that its been disscused here recently, just does not have the 'sound' that I might like. I dont know if somebdy else tryed to explain it this way and certainly since english is not my native language I may loose some true meaning of the words I want to say. I can follow the idea behind the music and I can admire the execution of it, but I very much miss the tone/sound that I might like... Still, trying to keep the open mind for a moment in time when this could change... |
There are so many versions of "Stimela", I lost count. I just posted that for the newbies. Based on the cover art; how did you ever buy any fusion?
I'm going to pursue Randy Weston until I get to the end of the line. Post your favorites by him.
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Now it's apparent why I know so little about this great artist; he couldn't get anybody to record his music. *****
aaugh!!!!
Well, I have 9 CDs by Weston. One big difference between the ones I have and the one you posted, is the album cover art. In the days of pre-internet, I would not buy "African Cookbook" based on the cover art alone.
All of my CDs look 'serious', with titles like 'Plays Ellington' and 'Plays monk'. I do have volcano blues.
Maskekela:
I think 'Stimela' is on every album this man has ever recorded. He is my favorite player from Africa and maybe the best player on Flugelhorn ever / anywhere!!! His music is always easy on the ears. He also has a terrific voice. Excellent, dare I say it, Fusion, of western and African music.
I will post my Weston later.
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Duke Ellington "Thanks For The Beautiful Land On The Delta" certainly had the spirit of "Nawlins" and the Duke. I went through basic training with a guy named "Petre" from "Nawlins"; he taught me the proper pronunciation of his city; he was quite a character. I'm sure he would have enjoyed everything you've posted immensely.
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Rok, so called "bashers" of Wynton Marsalis never said he couldn't blow the trumpet; he could arguably be the best, but when he's confronted with a blank sheet of paper, and he has to write some jazz notes on it, that's where his weakness shows up.
Although that's never been my favorite genre of jazz, I'm positive Wynton is one of the best.
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Today's Listen: Duke Ellington -- NEW ORLEANS SUITE There is just something that's just so right about Ellington giving us his take on New Orleans. The cover art has the perfect effect. Looking down from Mount Olympus?? This was recorded a few days after the death of Johnny Hodges. He joined Ellington in 1928. Died in 1970. That's 42 years with the band. Most guys these days can't stay together for 40 days. Wild Bill Davis on Organ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=890IdiOOVKM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRgbBsby_qg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdL5h5vWeTk On the Atlantic Masters label. The notes list other albums in the Atlantic Masters series, including: Herbie Hancock's --- FAT ALBERT ROTUNDA hahhahhaha The People Rest. Under the heading of "Signs of the Times", This album came in second in the Downbeat best Jazz album of 1971 poll. Sandwiched between Weather Report and Miles' Jack Johnson. There will be a reckoning someday. These clips may sound 'funny' to some. Fear not, it's just real Jazz. It won't harm you. Cheers |
I have this one, and I wore it out a long time ago. Hugh Masekela straight from the jungle, "Tell em About The Sorcerer". I like his visions of Africa; he tells about crossing the Sahara by camel caravan, and I can visualize humping across the desert on a camel (with a beautiful lady of course) that's the only way to travel if you're going to cross the Sahara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Opez_G-VG_wHere's another one from long ago that he's famous for, "Stimela"; this is supposed to be the best version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyFFCAEWY4wEnjoy the music. |
Randy Weston (born April 6, 1926 in Brooklyn, New York) is an American jazz pianist and composer of Jamaican parentage. He was described by Marian McPartland as "one of the world's great visionary pianists and composers". Since this is the description Marian McPartland gave Randy Weston, I think his music is a good place to start in my search for new music. I'm going to begin with "Da Blues" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vinm6KMlFkAI don't mean the Delta Blues, but that hip New York kind of blues; that's the kind Mary Lou liked; sounds so good to me. Now we go to "African Cookbook". Music Review by Scott Yanow When African Cookbook was recorded in 1964, pianist Randy Weston had no luck interesting any label to release the music, so he came out with it independently on his tiny Bakton company. In 1972, Atlantic released the performances. It is surprising that no company in the mid-'60s signed Weston, because "Willie's Tune," from this set, had the potential to catch on, and "Berkshire Blues" is somewhat well-known and the mixture of accessible bop with African rhythms overall is appealing. Trumpeter Ray Copeland was responsible for the arrangements while Weston contributed all but one of the songs. Copeland and the great tenor Booker Ervin have their share of solo space, bassist Vishnu Wood and drummer Lenny McBrowne are fine in support, and on three numbers the percussion of Big Black and Sir Harold Murray are added; Big Black also sings on "Congolese Children." An excellent outing. Now it's apparent why I know so little about this great artist; he couldn't get anybody to record his music. We gonna see what "African Cookbook" sounds like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sda6b_0KiakIt's getting off to a real good start. "Music soothes the savage beast", and calm's the restless mind. Rok, are you ready to explore Randy? Enjoy the music. |
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marqmike, you are welcome and thanks for the post. I agree with you that the bickering is unfortunate. It is completely unnecessary and could be avoided if everyone would be more mindful of what you wrote: its music that "communicated to this soul"; nicely worded. I can't even begin to count the times that have called for not putting down others' music preferences. We all have types of music that we don't like as much as others or not at all and can say so; but there are very different ways of saying it.
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Weather Report Heavy Weather. Another album of music, that was brought up, communicated to this soul. I have no idea why. Thanks for bringing it up. I only got one copy of that album. O-10, rok, Frogman and others. I like, most of the music you have posted, a lot. Thank you. And I really like learning more about the musicians and music from all of you. The bickering is like nails on a chalk board though. The wit and jousting is fun. This is at times, and can be, the best thread on audiogon for me. Keep the good stuff going. |
Sorry, left off the most important part. Close.
Brown singing Opera, is not Opera, or Funk. it's a joke.
Domingo Singing Funk, is not Funk, or Opera. It's a joke
ANYONE playing Fusion, is Not JAZZ, or Rock. It's a joke
Fairly simple. At least for those who want to see it.
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jzzmusician, no need to apologize, classical music discussion is not new to this thread. Reich's Minimalist piece Music For 18 Musicians is one of the most interesting contemporary pieces written; almost like being in a dream state for an hour. Your description is exactly right; it illustrates development beautifully. Particularly fascinating is the use of the human breath to create rhythmic pulses. Thanks for that and glad you enjoyed Martial Solal.
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18 Musicians:
I stuck with it for about half the length. Not that bad really, if the atmosphere and environment are right. Probably much better to see it live.
Could be the best example of 'Advancing the Art' posted so far. I can see this being an example of the ultimate fate of human music. Complete 'Fusion' into something that is beyond description. Something that will appeal to all humanity. Totally inoffensive.
One of the comments said they played a wrong note at 23:47. I had to laugh out loud. But, it appears they are correct.
One of The Frogman's favorite composers, so I think it will be well received.
I think I might buy it. I think it will sound great on the main rig.
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Brown singing Opera, is not Opera. it's a joke.
Domingo Singing Funk, is not Funk. It's a joke
ANYONE playing Fusion, is Not JAZZ. It's a joke
Fairly simple. At least for those who want to see it.
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Trying to follow your logic and not having much luck; help me out please.
****But, Fusion still sucks, unless, it's not considered Jazz, then it's just another genre. ****
So, from that comment and your examples I gather that you're saying that the genre fusion doesn't suck: it's just that jazz players playing it make it suck? Or simply calling it jazz makes it suck? Why am I following this logic? Let's see:
Funk doesn't suck and James Brown doesn't suck. Opera doesn't suck and Placido doesn't suck. James Brown singing opera sucks. Placido singing funk sucks.
We are in agreement so far. Now,
Chick Corea plays great jazz. Chick Corea playing fusion sucks. Or is it?: Fusion sucks because Chick Corea plays it.
Herbie Hancock plays great jazz. Herbie playing fusion sucks. Or is it?: Fusion sucks because Herbie plays it.
Jeff Beck doesn't suck. Jeff Beck is not a "jazz" player. Jeff Beck playing jazz sucks. But, Jeff Beck playing fusion doesn't suck. Fusion played by Jeff Beck doesn't suck.
Am I getting warm?
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With regard to fusion and the "development" of the tune being played; one of my favorite all time compositions is "Music for 18 Musicians" by Steve Reich. He is a modern classical composer and for me, illustrates the development of seemingly repetitive music beautifully. I apologize in advance for throwing classical music into a jazz thread but only did so to read your opinion and learn and discover more about jazz. Bob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5U9577N-dQ |
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I retract my last post because that would be equivalent to telling a scientist, that if he can not come up with something equivalent to Einstein's famous formulas, he's a flop.
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Rok, like you said we are all entitled to our opinions; and my opinion is that you've got it all wrong. But, let me get this straight, fusion would not suck if it weren't considered jazz. I get it now. |
O-10, like you, I don't mean this to be offensive. If you want an honest answer, please try again because I have no idea what it is your asking. I hope it's not what it appears you're asking, because if it is, it is one of the most nonsensical things I have ever read. Equivalent to: what on earth does that mean?
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Hard feelings? No way. You are a treasure on this thread. A man who truly knows and loves music, and wants to share that with others. Where would we be without you.
But, Fusion still sucks, unless, it's not considered Jazz, then it's just another genre.
The reason? It's not a natural progression of Jazz. It's creation had more to do with the amount of money being made by Rock groups on tour, versus the amount of money being made by Jazz players, esp as the popularity of Jazz declined. Like the Frankenstein of music.
Rock damaged or destroyed a lot. Jazz, Rock&Roll, Soul, R&B, Country. Criminal.
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Frogman, as far as I am concerned; and I don't mean for it to be offensive, but it's real. I preface this statement with the big "I", meaning one person, and one person only. With all the musical knowledge you and Learsfool have combined, if you can not put it together to make a sound equivalent to this, it's moot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzgyO6ndjoNow I know Learsfool is going to tell me he's got students who can produce music equivalent to this, so I'll excuse him. The bottom line is the music, not the nuts and bolts. Enjoy the music. |
Rok, you're grasping at straws. Hey, no hard feelings.
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Now we await the deluge of "why do you bother' or "they are so arrogant" or "call the administrators" or well, you get the drift.
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Sadly, not much new. Wholesale panning of an entire genre that, obviously, many on his thread find value in; and, instead of simply expressing dislike it is put down in insulting ways. Nice.*****
Well the sign over the door does say 'Jazz for Aficionados'. If Jazz can be panned, surely non-Jazz stands a good chance of being Panned. AND, unlike some people, my opinion is just that, MY opinion. No more or less valid than any other. But differences in opinion does make for good conversation.
And btw, I have insulted no one. But maybe some folks consider differences as insulting.
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Frogman,
I'd never heard of Martial Solal until your last post. Just spent the last half hour listening to his stuff.
Whoa......
Two of my favorite things in life are discovering new food and new music. You nailed this one.
Thank you. This guy is the sh*t!!!
-- Bob
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the Chick Corea music most of the music is "through-composed" (Wiki, look it up). That is what I meant when I said that the music should be approached like a symphony. Much of what you hear in that music is not improvised; it is part of the composition and within the framework of that composition there is room for improvised solos. In that way, it is like Duke’s jazz suites with "movements" within which and between which the soloists improvise. The soloists don’t follow each other in the more typical and simpler way, so there would be no opportunity for the soloists to even do what you point to. Apparently you thought that what was part of the composition was soloing. Now, the REALLY important stuff:*****
Explaining something does not make it more palatable. Music is about hearing and personal taste. Emotional reactions. Any music sounds good to at least some people. If only the people that play it.
Ellington's name in a paragraph on Fusion??? How dare you.
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This is a record that's on my play list right today. I bought it new and never got the CD, don't even know if it's on CD. I never got enough of this record. It came out in 77. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buFUP2LvK2sEnjoy the music. |
Of course my opinion can be challenged; I welcome it. I have clearly said that I have no issue with you or anyone else not liking this or any other music. However, you made a case for why the music had no merit by using an example that had no merit. Where's the challenge? That you don't like it? As I said, nothing wrong with that; but, a pretty feeble challenge.
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A soloist picking up where the other left off was an example of just ONE solo in that JALC example. It is ONE way that a soloist can start a solo, and a good and interesting way, but NOT the only way ****
I see you are still in the 'Strawman' business. I was responding to a comment by "jzzmusician" that he thought Fusion and other Jazz tunes develop as the tune is being played. I used your example, as an example of tune development and said I didn't hear any similar thing in the fusion piece. I was supporting my argument that the fusion piece had no continuity at all. No one ever said all soloist have to do that. No one ever implied it either.
Nice try.
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does it not follow that you should perhaps, just perhaps, give some (just a tinzy wins y bit) of credence to what I am now saying about this music? Makes sense to me. ******
If I were deaf, I would give you complete credence about how this music sounds. If I couldn't read, I would wait with bated breath for you to tell me about the origins of Fusion. If I had been born yesterday, I would hang on to your every word to bring me up to date..
But sense none of that is true, I appreciate the things you point out in music, and I am glad you do it. BUT, that does not mean your opinion cannot be challenged. Learsfool's admonishments notwithstanding.
Makes sense to me.
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This is a tune that really impressed me; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dnIBKw4d84Maybe we start at a given point in time, (past fusion) and everybody select favorite tunes for that year, just a thought. Enjoy the music. |
O-10, the last thing I want you to do is lie about any of this; your honesty is far more interesting. "Obsession": please allow me to remind you that it was you who wanted to go into fusion "in depth". Once again the problem is that there is no grasp of just how deep this stuff (any music) runs and you talk about it as if you do grasp it.
Rok, I expected better from you. From the standpoint of logic alone, since it was I who pointed out to you what you describe about one soloist picking up where the other left off, something I did because you were not capable of hearing (recognizing) it for yourself, does it not follow that you should perhaps, just perhaps, give some (just a tinzy wins y bit) of credence to what I am now saying about this music? Makes sense to me. Now, let’s put logic aside and let’s look at the facts of the matter:
A soloist picking up where the other left off was an example of just ONE solo in that JALC example. It is ONE way that a soloist can start a solo, and a good and interesting way, but NOT the only way. If that were the only valid way then you can go ahead and deem about 90% of the "jazz-jazz" solos posted in this thread as bs; not a reasonable proposition, I am sure you would agree. The majority of great solos don’t do that. Now, the really good stuff:
The reason that you didn’t hear that particular solo technique (and, yes, it IS the dreaded "technique") in the Corea music, and assuming your perception abilities have increased dramatically since the JALC clip was posted (if so, you’re very welcome, btw) is that in the Chick Corea music most of the music is "through-composed" (Wiki, look it up). That is what I meant when I said that the music should be approached like a symphony. Much of what you hear in that music is not improvised; it is part of the composition and within the framework of that composition there is room for improvised solos. In that way, it is like Duke’s jazz suites with "movements" within which and between which the soloists improvise. The soloists don’t follow each other in the more typical and simpler way, so there would be no opportunity for the soloists to even do what you point to. Apparently you thought that what was part of the composition was soloing. Now, the REALLY important stuff:
Sadly, not much new. Wholesale panning of an entire genre that, obviously, many on his thread find value in; and, instead of simply expressing dislike it is put down in insulting ways. Nice.
And btw, Johnny Dodds, Dexter, Martial Solal (!!) and others as well and nary a peep. Go figure.
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Rok, the most rewarding foray into new music was Mary Lou Willliams, and to think, I did not have one single record of hers in my collection; that would have been a tragic oversight of mine, if we had not gone exploring. I always "assumed"; there's that word that makes an ass out of you and me; that her music was old, and related to a genre of jazz that (may the jazz Gods forgive me) I could live without; but the truth was so far removed from my assumption, that I enjoy her music more than anyone else in my collection. Her music is so down to earth and easy to listen to. I don't think we're ever going to be so fortunate again, but we can't go anywhere until Frogman performs the final rites over the "Fusion beast". Although it wouldn't hurt to think about where we go next. What happened after "Fusion"? Grover Washington was hot, so was "Spyro Gyro". here's "Morning Dance" in case you've forgotten. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVDZ5UY_oDwJust speculating on what's next. Enjoy the music. |
rok,
thank you for your impressions. Do you feel the same way about Weather Report, Herbie Hancock or Miles Davis during the same time period?
Just curious, not trying to start a battle.
Bob
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One of the many aspects I like about fusion, (and a lot of jazz for that matter) is that the song "develops." *****
Interesting. I always felt just the opposite about Fusion. Just a collection of unrelated and unconnected sounds. If it had a beginning, middle and ending, with all the players providing mutual support, if might be considered Jazz. As it is, O-10 nailed it. The title of the tunes and the album covers tell you all you need to know.
The Frogman pointed out on one of the JALC clips, how one soloist picked up and continued the theme by repeating the last musical phrase the previous soloist played. I didn't hear anything approaching that on the Chick Corea record. Incoherent.
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Frogman, why didn't you put my bright yellow doubled knit bell bottomed slacks with the low waist and 2 inch cuffs in your post; I'm sure they fit somewhere.
As I stated before, I no longer make conscious decisions in regard to music, I trust that to my inner soul, so if it doesn't like the music, don't blame me, blame my inner soul. It also told me that "My Spanish Heart" is not the fusion that you have been presenting. The word "fusion" can be used to represent so many different combinations that it's meaning is abstract, vague, and non definitive. Fusion in regard to "My Spanish Heart" could be the fusion of jazz and Spanish music. Fusion that we have been listening to is electronic space music.
Since I owned those bright yellow double knit bell bottomed trousers with (correction) the 3 inch cuffs, I'm sure I had a good reason for buying them, just as I own all these fusion LP's, I'm sure I had a good reason for buying them as well; but at the moment whatever that reason was, it eludes me.
I can not separate those trouser and "Romantic Warrior" they both belong to a time in the past that I can no longer relate to. Those fusion records have not been converted to CD's, nor were they down loaded to the play list like all my favorite records.
The facts speak for themselves, now do you want me to lie and tell how much I like fusion in order to agree with your obsession with fusion?
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The Fusion Lovers Doth Express Their Love Too Much, methinks.
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Frogman,
Thanks for posting Romantic Warrior. Haven't listened to it in a long time and had forgotten how much I liked the album.
My jazz began with Frank Sinatra, Oscar Peterson, Erroll Garner and Louis Armstrong. (when he played more than he sang). I started playing drums in grade school and by the time I got to high school I was listening to Miles Davis and Frank Zappa.
Chick Corea, Herbie, and Weather Report exploded, (at least to me) on the scene when I was in high school and because I was living near Seattle I got to hear them live many times. It was a great time to love music.
One of the many aspects I like about fusion, (and a lot of jazz for that matter) is that the song "develops." With a lot of pop you know everything about the song in the first 16 bars, maybe 8. It's one of the reasons I like the Beatles, (and others) so much; their song develop and change throughout.
I have also been blessed with extreme difficulty understanding lyrics. In other words, I hear the human voice as an instrument.
I remember one morning listening to Weather Report. I had been married all of 2 days and my wife and I were still getting to know each other. It was about 7 in the morning and I've got my stereo playing "Black Market" and was playing along, intensely on a kitchen pot. It was the nearest instrument.
Count me in as a member of the "I like fusion" club.
Bob
And we're still married. 29 years this August.
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Rok, you and O-10 still don’t get it: THE GENRE DOESNT MATTER! Is it good music or not? That’s what matters; and whether it is good music or not does not depend on whether any one of us likes it or not. Now, a few clarifications:
Enthused? I am enthused by any good music in any genre. It was O-10 who brought up fusion as a genre to explore. And, yes, contrary to what he said after the fact, he suggested exploring the genre even before determining (unbeknownst to me) that it is I who should "lead". Anyone who really cares to verify this timeline need only go back over O-10’s posts. But, thats not really important, I really don’t care about any of that and O-10 and I don’t need to argue about that as far as I am concerned. I saw it (somewhat reluctantly) as an opportunity to explore a new genre and share and discuss some interesting music. O-10 then decided (I think for reasons that are not really important to discuss as far as I am concerned) that the discussion should be ended. I was already in, let’s say, a fusion frame of mind and so decided to continue exploring it. So, what’s the bottom line? :
****Good grief!!! They’re everywhere, they’re everywhere!!!!****
Pretty good bottom line if you ask me. I hope this doesn’t rub anyone the wrong way, but it needs to be said: Good grief!!! How many times do we need to hear about Grant Green!!! Again, bottom line: new music, interesting discussions/debates, new posters. Not too shabby! The big picture:
From my vantage point it is incredible that a listener cannot "find something good to say about fusion". There’s bad fusion just like there is bad jazz of the "ding, ding-a-ding, ding, ding-a-ding" type that is what is mostly discussed here. So what? But, to not be able to appreciate at least SOME of what a tour de force like "Romantic Warrior" has to offer is a shame. The level of craft is astounding and the level of the compositional values is outstanding; there is much to appreciate even if we much prefer other genres. To me, it’s far more productive and positive to, instead of saying, "the 70s were a bad year for music", to instead say "I can’t relate to the music of the 70s"; keeps the door open to growth. But that’s just me; and for whatever it may be worth to anyone else, it’s also the attitude of the overwhelming majority of musicians.
****One never knows............ Do one?****
You haven’t been paying attention.
Btw, O-10, I’m NOT picking on you, I just think one should be careful about making comments that are not factual. First of all, "My Spanish Heart" IS fusion; and Corea didn’t "dump" fusion at all after that recording. Check out his Elektrik Band recordings.
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Acman, you can not add or subtract anything from your past. In regard to music, I never make a conscious decision; what I'm saying is, I hear with my inner ear, my soul; and if the music resonates, I buy it; if it doesn't, I leave it be; it's just that simple.
I don't view music the same way I view food, like this is healthy and that's not. I don't make any conscious decision at all; it's yes or no made by my inner ear.
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Acman, I still have that LP, bought it new when it came out; that music is related to Tibetan Buddhism. I liked the LP so much that I put it on my computer play list and never bought the CD.
Enjoy the music.
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