Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

Great stuff , they play so well together .But 10 seconds in you get New Jersey in your faceiitis

I'm guessing you're on the festival trail .

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No Aspen, Vail, twice; for starters.  

**** But 10 seconds in you get New Jersey in your faceiitis ****

That’s a new one for Pepper.  Huh?!



Well, Vail  is a great place to bring serious music to the great unwashed .

 Happy for you, (cough, cough) .

 Been a mid-hall guy forever , can't adjust to Rudy , master of his trade though he is . No doubt disciples all over Jersey .


Same album but different personnel on the recording dates. The first song has Charles Mingus on bass from 24 September 1954:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeExMhvhicA

Paul Chambers on bass recorded on 6 June 1955:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nHg5hmXt2Y



Schubert, truth is I don’t like Vail the town, but the playing is always great.  

Interesting re Rudy.  Wasn’t quite following your cryptic comment since I wasn’t wearing my audiophile hat, but I actually agree.  I have never liked the way the baritone was recorded on that record, but there is a story there that explains the in your face sound...in part.  The geeks may find it interesting to know that shortly before recording that record, Pepper Adams had to give up his mouthpiece of many years due to having bitten through the tooth plate.  He switched to a Dukoff mouthpiece known for a very bright aggressive sound.  Still, better (less close) mic placement would probably have helped a great deal.  Funny, I had forgotten that was a RVG recording.  That was probably the reason; I like most of his work.

I admire his talent and talent it is . Just can’t break 50+ mid-hall central years .

Vail might well have more A-holes per sq mile than anywhere in the world .

Glad to hear you're with the good guys !
frogman+1 Pepper Adams.   I have that album on vinyl and I need to pull it out and listen to it. With regards to the sound I like  RVG's recordings. The baritone sax does have a strong tone to start with and it's possible he was engineered to be a little stronger  then the rest of the band.
Another disc by Adams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLZ-kDgXMiI

A disc I recently bought with another Bari player I like. It's Charlie Rouse's date but they work together well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ4ZqcNK6p8
frogman - nsp - Schubert I have just 3 Pepper Adams discs plus the Donald Byrd complete live at the Five Spot with Pepper Adams (2 disc set).

 Released as a Pepper Adams album I have "Conjuration - Fat Tuesday Sessions Live", "Encounter!", and "Pepper Adams Plays the Compositions of Charles Mingus"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV4oqdVtc-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svlFFbk-DsU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bC6MKpivYM

And two from the Five Spot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar1mrjLetKU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5tVnAZMnrQ


nsp and pjw, great Pepper Adams; thanks! One of my very favorite players. I would also highly recommend:

https://youtu.be/6A77glqqe9s

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0kxbDMn9-Dgt-Nag1ZhxSJMhkIn21jGF

As a featured member of the great Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Orchestra for many years, Mel Lewis and other rhythm section players from that band often appeared on Pepper’s solo recordings.  Apropos recent discussion, notice Eddie Daniels in the reed section:

https://youtu.be/WaCfDeZJPIU

https://youtu.be/wCnWKm5uYhs





Thanks for Dr.Deep and the Mingus stuff 81563 , and Epherma frogman .


What I enjoy most in jazz , when I’m not with the divine messengers like Sanders , Rubalcaba, Stitt and Elling , is being able to listen to the conversations these guys who have played so long together make easy for a neophyte like myself  to hear .

Jazz is like everything else in the universe , things are better when love is around .


“Conversation” is the key in jazz; and as you say, always best when done with love.  This musical event makes the point of your comment, so I’ll post the clip again.  Check out how Pepper starts his solo @ 1:45. Remember that little melodic fragment that he plays and then goes on to turn inside out and develop.  He plays for three minutes and then Thad plays @ 4:36.  Check out how Thad starts HIS solo.  That’s love; or, at the very, least extreme respect:

https://youtu.be/WaCfDeZJPIU


frogman the one you reposted is a great display of musicianship by Jones and Adams. Adams solo in particular shows a total command of his instrument. Your other links also magnify his brilliance on the baritone.

Its funny that the latest topic here is Pepper Adams as for this past week I have been sampling a lot of the Thad Jones Mel Lewis Orchestra on YouTube and Amazon and compiling the albums I intend to buy into my Amazon wish list. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Here is another awesome baritone player carrying on the torch since Adams’ passing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWHbHaPJvL4

As for the extended note from 2:50 - 3:20 I saw JC do the same and actually could see him exhibit the "circular breathing" technique from a distance of about 10 feet as my table was front row center and 5 feet from the bandstand.

Getting back to Pepper Adams he appears on far to many of my disc collection as a sideman for me to count. I wish he had recorded more as a leader.
Speaking of bands and baritones....

Duke with Harry Carney....

https://youtu.be/brqxEdwsTQs


some other baritone players...

Randy Weston with Cecil Payne....

https://youtu.be/hAPAW07ju1U

https://youtu.be/SkGpT9g4O6g

and Serge Chaloff sextet..

https://youtu.be/degZcUFL9SA
Great links alex the first one with Harry Carny blew me away!

Same song you posted plus the next song Take the A Train:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LQPKsoYBgU

pjw, re Thad and Mel: I can’t think of a bad recording, but I am partial to the first three and would be a great place to start.  “Live At The Village Vanguard”, “Consummation” and “Central Park North”.  The 2016 two disc release “All My Yesterdays” includes the debut performances at TVV and is great.  The lineups on those record are simply amazing and include, Joe Henderson, Eddie Daniels, Joe Farrell, Richard Davis, Roland Hanna and many other greats.

Re baritone players: Gary Smulyan took over Pepper Adams’ spot and has been there since.  Great player:

https://youtu.be/JVEZKxLTKiw

https://youtu.be/3yLbb2VTk9M






My favorite living baritone player:

https://youtu.be/zWw-3kJwge0

https://youtu.be/YB4mOhCr17Y

Funkiest aritone player; maybe ever.  Can drive and grab an entire electric band by the bal/&.  Pretty amazing:

https://youtu.be/_TP3kQGaCa8


frogman , to me its like Thad is saying he can't do any better . I'll just do what you started with .  Corrections are WELCOMED .
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Alex that then Harry Carney cut was excellent. The way he held that note so long towards the end of the song was amazing!! Was he the guy who started it all on baritone sax? His tone seems a little lighter then say Pepper Adams which I liked although I have to admit it's hard to get a light tone out of a baritone sax.lol
frogmanI like the Jones Adams Quintet "Mean What You Say" music you posted. With Jones on flugelhorn his tone Blends really well with pepper Adams. This is one I overlooked I'm buying a copy for my collection.
pjw the group of the group of four you posted on 6/19 are excellent.  the only one I don't have is Donald Harrison. I've overlooked him need to get a couple of titles. He reminds me a little of Sonny Rollins with a modern slant.Do you have the other two duo albums Archie shepp did for Steeplechase" Goin Home "and" Looking for bird"? I have all three duo albums on 180 gram vinyl and they sound great!! "Going home" is all Spirituals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd-vGYpI82Q 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpPGN77aJNo


schubertNice post! If we are posting about baritone players how could we forget Gerry Mulligan. Can't do that it wouldn't be right!
nsp. thanks for posting the Shihab / Rouse stuff . Straight ahead fun .

I like it when entire album is posted , saves me money !
I listen on my "puter with a
Sennhheiser 545 into a Audioquest Dragon Fly Red USB Dac . 545 is easy to drive and has more "jump" than my 650.

Even 100 $ black Dac makes things better .And easier to drive than $200 Red.Had a friend put a high-end sound board on my Desk top for Red .

Be interesting to know what you and others do .
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A favorite of mine . Mulligan and Hamilton did well together. Very well .

A lot of folks don’t care for Gerry . But nobody says he wasn’t cool as Greenland ice !

https://youtu.be/_lLK-cFAyXA

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nsp I have just received those 2 shepp sax/piano duet recordings with Horace Parlan. Fantastic recordings and a great change of pace for Shepp.


What did you think of the James Carter album you bought? The Real Quiet Storm.

I lucked out and scored a never opened LP of Eddie Daniels  "Breakthrough" .  All the pieces are on You Tube ,no sense in me posting them . The LP is  as  beautiful an  instrumental LP as I have ever heard .

  

More like a stream that flows clarinet than a human effort.

The You Tube clips are far from the LP sound .

The CD may suck , can't say,  but the LP would be a bargain at $100 .

" Eddie Daniels is the Monster Clarinetist....... Eddies debut album for GRP will be the the benchmark to judge all future recordings ............ "

                                    Quincy Jones


  " Eddie Daniels .....virtuoso blend of ....idioms is quite remarkable ..."


                                          Artie Shaw

       And Artie wasn't known as being free with compliments .


Only living instrumentalist I can think of at this level is the Great German violinist , Julia Fisher .



               


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John Hart (guitar) does a very nice version of "Both Sides Now". Joni wrote this so  well as not a bad version can be done of...
Eddie Daniels’ “Breakthrough” is a wonderful record; nice score.  You may find this interesting.  Nice insight into the career of this wonderful musician and interesting individual.  Anyone not interested in the “geeky” stuff can skip to 1:03:30 for the music. 

https://youtu.be/qnNGVP95eOc


I'm telling you straight up , the "Breakthrough " LP SOUND is as good as it gets . First time I played it I was so knocked out by the sound had to wait an hour to play side B .

Daniels makes genres irrelevant .

And, digitally recorded. It IS possible. Really good by any standard and the sound’s character suits the music’s Third Stream vibe. Not sure Mozart Clarinet Concerto with that particular string sound aesthetic would be the standard setter.

And here's what Defranco had to say about Eddie.

"Breakthrough" is first class and Eddie points the way to a departure from Benny, Artie or myself ....

I'm not sure that it isn't a ADD recording .  Sleeve says Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios , London .

Digitally mixed and edited in The Review Room and Mastered by Ted Jensen at Sterling Sound  both with Sony gear in NYC .

But I  know next to nothing about the process .

I do know that having the LPO in its prime didn't hurt anything .

I've often thought about 3rd stream , concluded the players were there but not the audience . Might have made it in swing era . Too late now .




frogman I ordered the discs you recommended. I had only one Thad Jones disc titled "The Magnificent Thad Jones" and I like the recording a lot. Here is a couple tunes from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgfD1FWn4Pw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kKiar1b7Wc


Schubert I also use Sennheiser headphones. I have the tried and true HD 650 model. All my discs have been ripped unto my laptop in FLAC format (lossless). I use an ARC DAC/headphone amp to bridge from the laptop to the headphones and the sonics are very good.