Where is Orpheus10? Oh, that' s easy question. Last time they saw him having a snowball fight and making a snowman. So my guess is that he is now warming himself up by sitting in the front of a fireplace wearing big merino wool socks and drinking hot black tea. |
Thanks for the clips, pjw. Nice!
Amazing amount of snow today (and tomorrow). Will get very heavy when the sun comes out on Wed/Thurs, |
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We should make a protest. This is not suitable. I vote for 2 x Saturday and in total for 8 days in a week.
You be Queen. Issue a decree. Your wish is our Command. Cheers |
While an extra day would be wonderful, there would be unintended consequences such as longer waits between social security checks, existing pill containers becoming useless, political squabbling over what to name the day, and Seventh Day Adventists totally discombobulated.
WTF, let's go for it.
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I wanted to say that it was not Sunday today and then I remembered that it was...
We should make a protest. This is not suitable. I vote for 2 x Saturday and in total for 8 days in a week.
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David Hurwitz:
Having been blessed by The Frogman, his word is now gospel. The CDs I have purchased based on his reviews, have so far been spot on.
He caught my attention because he was sort of slamming Bach!! No sacred cows? He also talks history. Very important.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers
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"not much at all" is not exactly nothing, and that's compared to Miles. I like him too, to a degree. |
Inna, I have no reason to believe that Miles was bs ing. He was not known for giving undeserved compliments. As far as Zawinal being “nothing”: Yikes! What can I say? He was a monster musician. |
Rok, I know David Hurwitz; he is a fellow Brooklynite. He is the ultimate music geek and I say that in the most positive way possible. Extremely knowledgeable about Classical music, composers, artists and history; you name it. He has a very easy and appealing way with his music writings and critiques. I would definitely take his opinions on “best of” seriously. Glad you came across his YouTube links. Btw, speaking of LVB 5&7, he wrote a book on those two symphonies as part of his Magnum Opus Series “A Closer Look, Beethoven’s 5th and 7th”. Check it out. He also has a book coming out on LVB’s orchestral music. Very interesting guy. |
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Frog, Miles was bullsh...... He would'n have played back up for Zawinul. Compared to him, Joe was not much at all. Miles Davis and John McLaughlin have unique leadership qualities. I bet, John learnt a lot from Miles, that fostered his abilities. You are certainly right about the rhythm. This is always most important in any relations. Timing and rhythm. Harmonic sophistication comes later. Maybe. |
@frogman Thanks for your reply on picking band musicians. Are you familiar with this reviewer? Would like your opinion of him. I just recently ran across him on you-tube. He has a ’best of’ list for every major classical work ever written!!. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIOEeOhoKp4I like stuff like that. He also seems to review CDs only, which is great also. Because of his review, I purchased Gunter Wand’s Beethoven cycle on RCA. It is the Kleiber 5&7 of 9th’s. Cheers |
Excellent point, Keegiam. Part of the broader point of “Is he an ah?”, but you’re right, ah’s can be reliable.....sometimes we wish they weren’t 😊 |
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Great insight from Frogman as always. I'll add one non-musical attribute I would want to see: reliability.
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**** Speaking of Miles’ new group, what is the primary thing a leader looks for in selecting band members? ****
No. 1- “Can I work with this guy?” “Is he an a-hole?” Doesn’t matter how great the player is, if the personality is not a fit then all bets are off.
Musical considerations:
Again, personality; this time, musical personality. The player has to have a similar musical vision as the leader and other band members. Musical style is one aspect of “vision”. A great pre-bebop era player like Prez wouldn’t have known what to do with a harmonically obtuse tune like “Giant Steps”. No way of knowing for sure how his playing MAY have changed over the years given that he died so young, but not even Bird would have been a good fit in a ‘60s era Miles band. IOW, is the player someone who is forward-looking style wise; or, at least, has the skills to adapt to the moment? Some players are musical chameleons; others, even great ones, are very set in a style and have no ability or desire to adapt or evolve stylistically. There’s a reason that Sonny Stitt didn’t last in Miles’s quintet. Fantastic player, but very set in a more traditional bebop mold.
Of course, all this is governed by the leader’s personality and ego. Just how much leeway is he willing to give a player personally and musically? As in any relationship, ego is a big factor; even for someone like Miles, who valued players with very strong and individualistic musical personalities.
From his autobiography. Miles on Joe Zawinal:
”I needed to let Joe go because that dude has more skills and rhythm than any musician I know. I don’t want to play back up for Joe”
Speaking of rhythm, of all the musical skills needed to be considered a good player, that is THE No. 1 consideration. You can have great technique, great intonation, command of harmony and beautiful sound, but if the rhythm is not super solid all those other positives mean little.
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It is past 6 in the morning here. I can't sleep, the dreams will not let me. But I can listen what you have posted, dreams are allowed here.
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I mostly listen to jazz recorded by my friends, cellist Peggy Lee, Dylan van der Schyff, Mike Herriot, Hugh Fraser (RIP), Ian McDougall, Dan Lapp...
Anything by
Ethan Iverson (saw Billy Hart at the Blue Note, backed up by the spectacular Bad Plus, a few years ago). Anyone have the BP LP of Rite of Spring they want to sell me for a good price?
"I LOVE jazz (except for how it sounds)!"
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@frogman:
Speaking of Miles' new group, what is the primary thing a leader looks for in selecting band members?
Cheers |
Miles. That is very, very, very nice.
Glad you liked it, Your Majesty. Cheers |
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Miles. That is very, very, very nice.
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Sorry to hear you lost a friend, @keegiam . Peace to you and all his friends and family. |
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I did not want to paste this link on the previous post. It does not go with a last line. But what you have said keegiam, the similarity of that clip is obvious. Here is Wicked Game. https://youtu.be/dlJew-Dw87I |
Yep, it is, you are absolutely right.
And I am sorry to hear about your friend.
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Thank you all for your thoughts. Frogman, the guitar in the intro to Lucinda Williams made me think of Chris Isaak's "Wicked Game." Maybe your wife will hear the similarity. (Or maybe I'm off my rocker?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vKsSGyQf-M&t=14s |
Sorry to hear that, Keegiam. I too lost a dear friend recently; a very sad feeling indeed. Hang in there. Best to you and your friend’s family. Not usually my cup of tea, but my dear wife a country music fan recently introduced me to this interesting song writer: https://youtu.be/edH1zYNPPoU |
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