Jazz for aficionados

wharfy, I know a lot of rock bands have covered Mose Allison’s songs. I’m not sure which have covered what, though. Several times a year, I get out of bed and say to myself, "I have to listen to Mose today." 

I’m not a straight-up jazz listener. I like all kinds of music, but I also like all kinds of jazz adjacent music. If Mose  is just playing jazz, then he’s a jazzman. If he’s playing and singing, he’s not exactly a jazz singer  but his piano is playing jazz.

I’m a big Gato Barbieri fan. I don’t have "Fenix," though. I’ll stream it. Thanks for mentioning it.

frogman, mahgister, stuartk, I want to probe a bit and see if we can define the boundaries of jazz. So, I'm going to start with a performer who might or might not be a "jazz" performer: Frank Sinatra. What do you think?

@audio-b-dog 

Was listening to Pat Metheny, Imaginary Day when I read your posts about Mose Allison.   Being a sucker for everything that RVG had a hand in, I immediately went to Mose Allison Sings and my toes been a tapping ever since.

@audio-b-dog 

frogman, mahgister, stuartk, I want to probe a bit and see if we can define the boundaries of jazz. So, I’m going to start with a performer who might or might not be a "jazz" performer: Frank Sinatra. What do you think?

I don’t feel competent to make any definitive declarations in this regard. For one thing, I  haven’t heard much Sinatra. What I have heard has not displayed what I consider to be fundamental to the genre: improvisation on his part. There are of course, plenty of examples of vocalists fronting bands playing "jazzy" arrangements of standards that do not feature improvisation by the singer. To my mind, this does necessarily make it Jazz. Perhaps it’s a matter of degree...

Let’s wait and see what @frogman has to say on this topic. 

It is evident for me that Sinatra is a great singer...

But i had no real interest for him...

If i hear him i know he is more than average to say the least...

But i cannot say i appreciate many singers....

The singer i like the most is a persian singer  with many Indian singers...

To stay in Jazz each time i hear  Louis Armstrong playing or singing  i felt him in my gut....it is not that i love him, he is like a sun irradiating...