If Audiophiles care about sound, then why so few threads on acoustics

cxp,

"..room treatments do not alter or change whether the sound coming out of speakers sounds live or not."


Is it not also true that the room has far more effect upon the bass response than either the midrange or the treble? 

Oh geoff, you are projecting again.  The adults are trying to have a discussion about acoustics. Run along now.

heaudio123, sorry should have been Surround Left and Surround R.  At ear level beside sitting position.

Please enlighten us on what we are missing.

I have treated my listening room and think it sounds great.

This is also very subjective, like bourbon's and cigars.

The reason "autophiles" don't get into acoustics is they do not know how to do the math. Plug and play away is the tekkie way. Something new? That will do. High priced junk - give him a hunk. You can't make good sounds in a closet, but you can make a closet sound its best.

Anyone who understands acoustics is either working in the field or listening to his/her tunes. Equipment alone never gives up the fullness of good music. That's why there is so much foolish tech on this site.

May the music you love fill your days, your nights, and your life. If you prefer to be an electrician: go for it.

dmaddox77, the two side walls "may" be best and this is often what is recommended, mainly based on math simulations done by Harmon and others. Problem, is, almost all (all) those simulations assume no output from the mains and and one of your primary modes (~50hz) will still have your mains putting out a lot unless you high pass filter them. This is where measurements really help.


Heavy carpet everywhere and more absorber panels may leave your room over damped. Would need to be careful. Need to balance diffusion.

So, it becomes an interesting puzzle to incorporate aesthetically pleasing (or "invisible") acoustic treatments in a shared living space.

One of the manufacturers of acoustic wall panels, I forgot which one, offers customized design. If I understood correctly, you can send them a picture and they make a panel with it. You could pick a color only and make interesting designs on the wall, or your kids' paintings, or whatever else comes to your mind.

DS

Since time and effort is a commodity that many don’t have enough of, as several have pointed out, there is a need for some expert advice. The problem becomes that most expert advice is tied to sales of a particular solution. And there isn’t really a profession dedicated to consumer audio acoustic consulting. (Of course!) I am now wondering whether my local university, which has a sound recording department in the Arts and Media college, might have a professor who has the training for this. If they did, and were willing, they might be contracted to come to my house and consider my situation. Perhaps that’s an option for others, here. 

Heaudio123, I am afraid it will be too dampened as well.  I will put some scatter plates on the rear wall and rear sides.
I love good quality sound, so my system will always evolve.  New and better speakers, subwoofers, and amplification will increase.  At this point diffusion on the cieling will be added.  

Best thread on acoustics is in my listening room where it counts most

" Since time and effort is a commodity that many don’t have enough of, as several have pointed out, there is a need for some expert advice. The problem becomes that most expert advice is tied to sales of a particular solution. And there isn’t really a profession dedicated to consumer audio acoustic consulting." 

Thanks for indicating that this is the perception. 

Jeff Hedback of Hedback Designed Acoustics only sells information and expert advice, and he does home audio as well as pro audio rooms.  He sells no acoustic treatment products but will make expert recommendations.  If money is an issue he can tell you how to construct your own, tailored to your specific issues and requirements, in your specific room.   

Duke 

tvad,
This is how my absorption panels are made. I always encourage people to do this. Big fabric stores always have really good deals on fabric, and when you are trying "match" your decor, what may not be popular, may work perfectly. We picked up 15 yards at about $4/yard that was a perfect compliment to our paint scheme.

I constructed fabric covered acoustic panels many years ago using fabrics my wife and I selected together that complement our living room color palette. To our guests, the panels look like decorative accents. Their purpose is disguised.

"...I constructed fabric covered acoustic panels many years ago using fabrics my wife and I selected together..."

Just thinking of it, many people mantion so-called WAF as an important one. Why not put wife's picture on it? She may think the panels are the best thing that ever happened to your living room.

I hate to judge so harshly but some people oft say the first thing that pops into their head. 

Reasons:

1. Married- After purchasing a sizable system they
give up on treatments to assuage the spouse.

2. Do not recognize what they are missing as it can 
tricky to a/b room acoustics.

3. People do not buy into the three legged stool theory
that good sound relies equally upon:

a. Equipement
b. Recordings
c. Room