I’d ask Peter if he were making this speaker for a higher price point what caps & wires would he use? Hats a nice Jon confrontational way of getting the builders opinion.
Consider Master Built cables for your rebuild. My Von Schweikert’s use them internally. For sure will take away a potential weak link.Though at their price point you’ll for sure want to upgrade Caps too.
I’m considering upgrading my speakers internal wiring
I’m looking for objective input because I’m not sure if I’m really OCD.
I have a beautiful pair for PBN M1!5 in a Black finish which I love and sound incredible. Peter builds high quality equipment with nothing spared. I think we spend thousands on speaker cables and transport and everything that gets to the binding posts….. And then ? Internally it’s not so great.
I’m considering re-wiring including binding posts to all Cardas ..
What are some thoughts.
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You're playing a fool's game. Put the snake oil down and start working with science and objective facts. Your expensive cables have not improved your sound at all. At. All. Changing out internal wires will also do nothing. Shame on people here who claim otherwise. Those people will never be true audiophiles. Frauds. |
This may have already been said so apologies if redundant....I didn't have the patience to read through the thread but if you do this, you should also accept that these are now your speakers as their resale value will be lowered. Regardless if it is an improvement and if you did a perfect job, I cannot imagine being a person interested in a speaker and buying one that the previous owner rewired their crossovers. There are some Egglestonworks speakers on USAM that I saw today where someone did this and replaced caps in the crossovers...it appears he is having a tough time finding a buyer. If you can afford it where selling them will never matter and are proficient at this type of work then go for it! |
I saw that Eggleston ad you're talking about in usam. The crossover build looks legit. The seller used some massively expensive components rarely if ever seen in $2500 speakers, and the workmanship looks fine. If I were interested, I would want to review old vs new schematics, inspect the crossover work in person, learn everything I can from the seller, and of course carefully audition the modded speakers. If they sound great, that's really all anyone should care about.
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@devinplombier thx for responding. dear ChatBox: If expensive cable interconnects are needed to maximize performance of high end audio systems, why aren’t the components themselves wired with expensive wiring? ChatBox: The discussion around expensive cable interconnects in high-end audio systems often revolves around the belief that better cables can improve sound quality. However, the wiring inside audio components is typically designed with a focus on cost-effectiveness, manufacturing practicality, and performance requirements. Here are a few reasons why the internal wiring of audio components may not be as costly as high-end interconnect cables: 1. Cost and Economics: High-end audio manufacturers balance performance with cost. Internal wiring is often selected to meet specific performance criteria while keeping manufacturing costs manageable. Using expensive materials for all internal wiring would significantly increase production costs and retail prices. 2. Design Considerations: The internal wiring of audio components is designed to work within a specific environment and set of constraints. Manufacturers optimize the design for the electrical requirements of the circuit, which might not necessitate high-end materials or techniques. 3. Signal Path Length: The internal wiring is typically much shorter than interconnects, meaning that the potential degradation of signal quality over short distances is less significant. As a result, the benefits of using high-end wiring may diminish when the wire runs are extremely short. 4. Application of Cables: Cables that connect components (interconnects) are subjected to different conditions than internal wiring. They often face higher levels of electromagnetic interference (EMI) and radio frequency interference (RFI) because they are external and connect various components. High-end cables are designed to minimize these effects. 5. Marketing and Perception: The high-end audio market often places a significant emphasis on cables and interconnects as a means to differentiate products. Marketing can create a perception that these cables are essential for achieving optimal performance, even if the actual differences may be subtle or subjective. 6. Component Isolation: High-end audio components are often designed with isolation techniques that minimize the impact of internal wiring on sound quality. For example, careful layout, shielding, and grounding can mitigate many issues that might otherwise necessitate the use of expensive wiring. While some audiophiles believe that high-end interconnects can make a noticeable difference in sound quality, opinions vary widely on the actual impact of cables versus the components themselves. Ultimately, the choice of wiring in audio components is a balance of performance, cost, and practicality.
That wasn't so hard now, was it? |
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