Hubbell hospital grade outlets w/ surge protection


Alot of people have talked about the benefits of Hubbell hospital grade wall outlets. I have discovered that Hubbell makes a version of these hospital grade outlets (20 amp with isolated ground) with built in surge protection.
If power conditioners (w/surge protection) limit the dynamics and power of some amplifiers, would this Hubbell outlet be a good way to protect your amplifiers from power spikes, etc, without the downsides to a power conditioner - potentially at a reasonable cost? Many have suggested that their amps sound best when plugged directly into the wall outlet. The surge protection version is identical to the std. hospital grade-isolated ground outlet in evert way, it just adds a measure of surge protection. Could this give the best sound AND protection, for significantly less than $100?
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I've not found simple MOV-based surge and spike protection to affect current draw with my system. Some power cords do offer basic spike and surge protection (MIT and Tice come to mind) and I tend to use these straight into a P&S hospital grade outlet with power amps. I have noticed restrictions in dynamics with larger power amps where transformer-based conditioners were used. I'm a little leery about sticking MOVs and other sacrificals in the walls.
It could (it might, or more likely might not). Properly engineered line conditioning will not limit dynamics, and the system will most likely sound better then without conditioning, but the only way to determine that is to try a good unit such as a Shunyata Hydra or Chang Lightspeed with your rig to find out for sure. Of course you should also have a dedicated AC line and quality AC cord(s) to complete the lineup. While an AC outlet containing an MOV protector will provide some level of transient protection, it most likely will not protect as well as the larger transient snubbers inside the Chang's etc. but is still certainly better than nothing at all. Also note that these snubbers are not adequate for primary protection, but serve well as a 2nd stage of protection downline from a whole-house primary arrestor located at the home's power panel enterance.
Go to gcaudio.com and read about the new First Impression Music outlet - sells for 60-65 a piece. I do not remember if the surge protection is there. Contact Galen Carol and he may know the answers to your Q"S.
The FIM is based on a standard Woodhead receptacle (about $10) and I don't have any experience with it, nor am I in the market for $65 US receptacles. In my experience, the Arrow Hart 8200 is a great sounding hospital grade receptacle, available for about $8 and better than the Hubbell 8300 (which I have and cost almost 3 times as much), and far better than the P&S 5262, which sells for about $7. In their literature on the Power Port, PS Audio states clearly (which I was not aware of when I bought my Arrow Harts) that the Arrow Harts were the best sounding standard receptacles that they had heard and use(d) them in their Power Plants. They now have their Power Port, which I would imagine (at $49) is in the market to compete with the likes of the FIM and may be based on the Arrow Hart (the 20 amp model, not the 8200 which is a 15 amp receptacle), but I'm not totally sure from reading the literature. None of the receptacles mentioned in my post have built-in surge protection.
Some high end amplifiers and preamplifier have power conditioning built in, so who knows. I believe many conditioners do limit power, mostly the low priced ones. There are many fine ones that do not. One of the Vansevers conditioners is even called the "Unlimiter". Finally, surge protection and power conditioning are not the same thing.
Yes. I am well aware that surge protection and power conditioning are not the same thing. Most power conditioners have surge protection built in. I was wondering since it is thought that power conditioners limit power and do other potentially negative things, is there a good way to get surge protection without a power conditioner. Noting that Hubbell makes a hospital grade outlet with built in surge protection, is was wondering if this might be the best way to go for amps while giving them protection from power surges.
Depending where you live you can also have the electric company add surge protection right at your circuit box for the whole house. Do not know how it affects current.