How does sound influence your appreciation?


Since I’ve gotten my system to a very good place, I find myself liking the performance of almost everything I hear. Now in classical music, there are sometimes dozens of performances of the same piece, each performance having its own unique take. I now seem to like every interpretation I hear regardless of differences, due to the great sound. I’m losing my discernment because the sound is so much a part of the equation. This is more true of orchestral music than other types
How about you?

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i like a project where I can take a low-end, modest ( cheap ) speaker and turn it into a giant killer!
and it appeals to my altruistic proletariat motives as many people in MANY countries are stuck w/ their low-end gear yet w/ some tweaks and fine tuning & crossover mods we can make things MUCH better!
thern i like finding new application like turning a tower speaker into a better Center channel speaker than the supplied W/T/W
|and i like working w/ an expert to do this !

oK FOLKS HERE HOW THEY CAN BE FIXED !the sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3

Danny, GR research said : " We’ve done that upgrade on the Sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3 and look forward to getting it back to you. "

here are the results AFTER it’s fixed !

the sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3

Impedance: Fairly balanced other than the dip in the lower midrange down, to 2.67ohms in the lower midrange.

the sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3

Spectral Decay: Much cleaner decay overall, but still a bit messy, should clean up with NoRez and some additional stuffing

the sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3

Vertical Axis: they get a fairly proud around 3Khz as you move up above the tweeter, but still fairly smooth overall.

the sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3

Horizontal Axis: still very smooth.

the sony tower Sony SS-CS3 3

read and weep

"We did Design something for the SSCS3 that worked out pretty well, but the main issue is that the impedance unfortunately drops to ~2.7 ohms at ~350Hz, which will make them quite hard to drive, and can make some amps run hot or cause them to become unstable.

Here are the new measurements: (old measurements in the attachments)

OnAxis+ crossover: Much smoother response than stock."

thousands of happy customers in 105 countries rather well proves the wisdom and efficacy of GR research approach!

his critics are facile proven idiots , dolts IME ! Danny knows what will sound best and simply ..............................does it !

he recently corrected this low-end Sony tower speaker and will soon correct the crossover when i send the same speaker back to him now redesigned by me as a horiziontal center channel speaker w/ the base removed & w/ the drivers re-arranged.in a W-t/M-W configuration !

the point is to take modest-priced speaker and make it as good sounding as an expensive one !

he did the same / similar w/ the bookshelf speaker of the series brilliantly making the super-tweeter the tweeter and the tweeter a dome style midrange ! his crossover magic ! all w/ out changing the drivers!

this resulted in a very cheap speaker $180 a pair ! having the performance of $1K speaker ! amazing !

next crazy project (and a bit more difficult is to take one of the Sony SS-CS3 3 towers take off the little base and turn it horizontal and make it a upgraded center channel! we will reconfigure the speakers to a ideal center channel W-T/M -W configuration! 🙂

yes it will require new faceplate and new x -over too!

we are considering configuring the woofers w/ the Allison acoustic push pull configuration ! that means they are electrically OUT of phase but acoustically IN Phase . it gives 20% less harmonic distortion too! here is the little stock center-channel

one has to wonder if it is that the makers are doing such p$%-poor engineering, design or that they deliberately use such cheap a#$ parts!?

as a member of SAE ( Society OF Automotive Engineers ) I know if automakers did this, used cheap parts, cars would be nearly useless! 🤣

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yes it will require new faceplate and new x -over too!

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“I’m losing my discernment because the sound is so much a part of the equation”

How can this possibly be a good thing? In my book, this is as much of a negative as not being able to appreciate a great performance because the sound is not up to a certain (personal) standard. Not every performance is on the same level of artistry. Some are exceptional, some are bad and many are somewhere in between. Yes, great sound is always a good thing and we all strive for it. Our presence here makes this obvious,

Whether the quality of the sound or that of the performance is one’s top priority is a personal thing. However, it seems to me that each deserves as much scrutiny as the other. To answer the OP’s question more succinctly: Very little, if at all.

Most of the  greatest musical events i listened on recordings for my taste are bad recordings.

But the musical impact is so huge we forgot sound...

 Musical meanings convey by human gesture transcend sound recording  in any means or format on any system.

Meanings survive the recording death.

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