High gain preamps [30db +]

Thank you,Tvad..Appreciate your help..

Linear Tube Audio Micro ZOTL Preamp

Do you mean in the line section of the preamp?

Yes,The inestage..

Audible Illusions is around 30db.  Conrad Johnson has some in the mid-high 20s.  

Michi P5 by Rotel is 40dB

http://www.rotel.com/product/p5

Thanks to all for passing along good info.I have purchased an Audible Illusions L2 from Galen Carol in San Antonio.It was refurbished by the factory and comes with a 1 year warranty.I paid $900 which seems reasonable.Anyway will see how it goes.Again,thanks for your responses,Dan

Agree with Conrad Johnson. I have a cj and a krell Pam 5. The cj is much louder at 9 o’clock then the Pam 5. I’d say 30%. 

Keep what you have.

High gain preamps [30db +]

Why? would somebody/anybody!! want to reduce the sources signal level down to a miniscule amount with the volume control (yes it passive even in a an active preamp), only then to boost the **** out of it with huge gain from an active line stage after that volume control????????????
If you do, your throwing away "precious high source level", down to what a phono cartridge puts out, just so then all the noise and **** etc etc gets boosted back up again by that high gain output stage  

Nelson Pass says it all here:

“We’ve got lots of gain in our electronics. More gain than some of us need or want. At least 10 db more.

Think of it this way: If you are running your volume control down around 9 o’clock, you are actually throwing away signal level so that a subsequent gain stage can make it back up.

Routinely DIYers opt to make themselves a “passive preamp” - just an input selector and a volume control.

What could be better? Hardly any noise or distortion added by these simple passive parts. No feedback, no worrying about what type of capacitors – just musical perfection.

And yet there are guys out there who don’t care for the result. “It sucks the life out of the music”, is a commonly heard refrain (really - I’m being serious here!). Maybe they are reacting psychologically to the need to turn the volume control up compared to an active preamp.”

Cheers George