High end Class D amps?


Just an observation and a question. Are there 'high end' Class D amps out there that are just as good as Class A, A/B amps? I realize that's a sensitive question to some and I mean no disrespect---but whenever I see others' hifi systems on social media, all of the amps are A or A/B. There's always Pass, McIntosh, Moon, Luxman, Accuphase, etc. Where are the Class Ds? For folks out there that want more power for less efficient speakers and can't afford the uber expensive Class As, A/Bs, what is there to choose from that's close to those brands? Thanks
bluorion

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I'm really surprised that no-one has brought up SPEC audio amps (from Japan) in this thread.  They appear to be very carefully and thoughtfully designed and manufactured.
@tvad  Everything I've read about VTV has led me to the conclusion that their standards of construction are......well.....lead me to the conclusion that they don't merit inclusion in this thread with its particular title.
These are the most interesting Class D amps I've yet come across, using  Korg Nutube buffer, which emulates a triode.
https://atm-audio.com/class-d-amplifier/
Unfortunately, they don't seem to have made it to the US yet, but if Nord, Apollon and March have, surely they will too.
You've got to wonder why the LSA Voyager has been announced as imminent for getting on for a year now, but is still forthcoming.
@klh007 The 10K gives it away--it's the LKV Veros, already reviewed vry positively by Herb R.
You should really add these to your list.
https://www.cherryamp.com/
Also, take a look over at AudioCircle; there are a number of active forums from Class D manufacturers and a variety of other threads.
@bluorion  I recommend you google a few basics on Class D amps.  First of all, the D does not stand for digital; A, B, and C, were all already taken, so it was simply the next letter in the alphabet.  A class D amplification circuit has a different topology/operation from the others.
Simplifying a lot, you'll find that many of the amps for sale contain three basic elements, an input buffer, the amp proper, and a power supply.  There's a lot of mix and match with these three elements.  There are different kinds of input buffer, and even ones that incorporate a tube.  There are different amp modules, from Purifi, Hypex, IcePower and several others.  There are switching-mode power supplies and linear power supplies; a subset of linear power supplies is those that employ toroidal transformers.  Some makers allow you to "assemble" your own amp on their website selecting from the available alternatives.
From here it gets a lot more complicated.  There are some genuine digital amps (not that many), and the next big thing will likely be GaN amplification.  All of these terms are googleable.
They’re just 12AU7’s.

AVM use unique tubes in their integrated and power amps.
Evidently, it was too much to hope for some reasonable discussion of the virtues of the Apollon, with perhaps some owners of competing brands like Nord and March contributing also.  But so the 'gon goes.
The initial problem I had with AGD was the gimmickry of the tube enclosure, but I have to say that the pretty much universally positive reviews have brought me around.
OK, so in the world of Purifi, alongside Apollon (Austria)
https://www.apollonaudio.com/

or March (Australia)
https://www.marchaudio.net.au/

or Nord (G.B.)
https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/

you're also got ATM Audio (Spain)
https://atm-audio.com/

Audiophonics (France)
https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/

Rouge (Italy)
https://en.rougeaudiodesign.com/

and Vera (Norway)
https://www.vera-audio.com/

among others.

In the US you've got VTV, so beloved of a certain member of Audiogon
https://vtvamplifier.com/

and at a very different price point LKV
https://sites.google.com/view/lkvresearch/home

A lot of these produces share the same or similar input buffers and power supplies, as well as the Purifi module, though it isn't always clear on the websites exactly what goes into each unit.  Some differences are attributable to the quality and cleanness of the construction, some (perhaps) to design, unique components, and topology.

GaN is already here with Orchard, AGD and others, while the much-delayed and much-anticipated LSA Voyager is reportedly coming soon (perhaps).

Only in the case of the Voyager, the field it's playing on is shaped like a dodecagon.