Harbeth again…or other speakers for acoustic music?


Hi!

I’ve been without any decent hifi setup for a few years now but lately had the thoughts of investing in a good system again. Let me tell you little about my background and what I’m searching for. I live in a place far from any hifi-stores, I’ve not so much experience of listening to a lot of different systems or visiting hifi shows, but I’ve been playing music myself, mostly jazz, for about 20 years and have been in many performances both as musician and as audience.

About 5 years ago I first bought a pair of Harbeth P3 second hand along with a Rega amp. Pretty soon I wanted something bigger in scale so I swapped the speakers for a pair of 30.1 and the amp for a Croft 25/7 combo. The sound was really really good in so many ways, best sound and midrange I’ve ever heard before! Even though my apartment back then was not optimal with concrete walls the vocals was very lifelike. But after a while I feeling somehow that something was missing. I’m no bass junkie or so but I was tempted to try something that had little more depth and covered the bass region better, so I was started looking at SHL5+ and C7ES3. I also thought about integration some subs but never tried that route. Swapped the 30.1 for C7 but I was immediately disappointed. I never got them to sound good at my place. I thought they lacked the magic I felt 30.1 had.

 

I ended up selling all my gear, but the sound of 30.1 and Croft combo really etched back in my mind. It was more emotional to listen to music as I ever before had experienced. I prefer listen to acoustic music, jazz, small groups ensembles but occasional big band and some lighter pop, but looking for something that excells with vocals and acoustic instruments. It can absolutely be little on the warmer sound, I can’t stand harsh and cold sound.


So now I’m looking for a system again and would like to hear what suggestions you have. I listen to low to modest volumes. No heavy rock or metal. I need something that can play good on low volume. HE speakers and a SET amp would be an alternative but also is Harbeth. I know there’s 30.2 now and XD. Integrating with subs could be Ok. My living room is about 15x12 feet and the speakers cannot be to big and dominant, ex Quad ESL is not an option. There is a few softer walls and I think 1 concrete wall.

 

Happy to hear your thoughts..

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I own the Harbeth 30.2 and 90% of my listening is vocal and acoustic, rarely at high volume, which are two reasons I picked the 30.2's. When I listened to speakers, I also didn't like the 7's as much and wanted something with more bass then the 3's. There is plenty of detail at low volumes, they really pull all the emotions from vocals. I play guitar (badly) and guitars and piano sound natural. I would say they are rather too polite for hard rock and are not the best at huge symphonic music, like Mahler, but then they are not big floor standers either. I drive them with a 30 watt Class A with no problem. Hope this helps. 

 

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While you are trying to figure this out buy a pair of P3s to listen to in the meantime. Might save you some money in the long run.

A local dealer has the full lineup of Harbeth speakers and I like the sound of this brand, particularly the 30.2 model.  He gets great sound with tube amps such as the Synthesis A 40 (KT 66 tube).  The alternative to Harbeth he sells is Audio Note speakers.  I like this brand too.  The sound of the Audio Note line is fuller, but, because their speakers are meant to be placed close to the back wall, their is less of a sense of depth to the soundstage.  I think you would like either brands.