Hand Sanitizer for Ultrasonic Record Cleaning?


Xerox Hand Sanitizer

I was at my local Goodwill the other day, and I noticed Xerox branded hand sanitizer on sale for $4 a gallon. After I passed it, I wondered just how much alcohol is in it? Sure enough it is 80%, that should be good enough for record cleaning, shouldn't it? I actually paid like $36 or something for a gallon of isopropyl at Tractor Supply the other week and it really burned my britches.

Thoughts?

whammo

Before you buy a gallon it would be good to look into what the effect of glycerin might be on your records. That’s the second ingredient.

This is the material safety data sheet (MSDS) - D-40035.en-us.pdf (xerox.com).  The alcohol is ethanol and this type of antiseptic was rushed into service for COVID and it follows FDA guidelines.  BUT this is good as an antiseptic - not as a cleaning solvent.  With the glycerin and what is not lab-grade ethanol it will likely leave a lot of residue when it dries.  The risk is that it may leave the record dirtier than when you started.  Otherwise, as long as the exposure is short, the risk of damaging the record (beyond the residue) should be low.  

whammo

Alcohol is a primary record cleaning solution ingredient.

Opinion stated as fact.

There are good reasons to avoid alcohol in a record cleaner.

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antinn

Looks like you found the same Xerox website I did. That’s interesting info. Well, perhaps I can use it for something else. Glycerin is used as a cleaner in many situations, so I’m sure I will find a good use for it. Maybe when ’COVID 2:Electric Boogaloo’ is unveiled I can trade it for a thousand toilet paper rolls or something 😁

Isopropyl alcohol IS a primary ingredient in many record cleaning solutions.

Water is the primary ingredient in most record cleaning solutions. Many solutions are alcohol-free, and promote the fact that ensures better protection of the vinyl. There are many good reasons to avoid alcohol when cleaning LPs.

When it comes to ultrasonic cleaning - the topic of this thread - some rely on nothing but water. That includes the Klaudio ultrasonic cleaners, which are excellent. So it seems you have a bit to learn about LP cleaning.

 

 

cleeds


Water is the primary ingredient in most record cleaning solutions...
Opinion stated as fact.

Be careful with alcohol and ultrasonic tanks.  Ethanol (in water) > about 7% and IPA (in water) > about 10% are classified by the NFPA as flammable with a flashpoint of 100F.  With an ultrasonic unit three mechanisms are in play - the heat that speeds up evaporation; the record turning is drawing fluid out that is evaporating, and the ultrasonics are agitating the fluid surface and a mist/vapor is often produced. All of this has the potential to setup the necessary conditions to develop flammable AND explosive vapor and the ultrasonic tank is unlikely to be explosion proof rated (and very $$$$$).  Also, in a common domestic setting, it is very unlikely that the high ventilation turn-over rates that are required in medical and industrial settings that prevent the accumulation of flammable/explosive vapors will be used. So, the risk in a domestic setting is higher than an industrial setting.

We have been using out of date hand sanitizer to clean printing plates in the printmaking classes at our college.  it does a good job of taking the bulk off and a great job of cleaning residual ink from hands