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Get a load of this Deceptive add for a Gryphon Amp here on AG

So the title is  Gryphon Essence Stereo Power Amplifier Pure Class A 5 Months Old.

You can read the description for yourself.


I make an offer on the amp. Below is the reply I get from the Seller. Maybe its just me but this kind of selling should be BANNED on AG.  Selling Grey Market gear without putting any of it in the description. Total BS...and he isn't even the owner of the amp.  He's in California but says he's selling for somebody else in Massachusetts.



Thank you for your offer that I can accept.
I have some things to explain:
It's imported, from out-of -US distributor.
Gryphon designed it voltage interchangeable, manufactured 220-240V, then set up by distributor's technician to US 120V so you can just plug ( the power cord ) and play.
Gryphon's warranty is not transferable, made very clear in user's manual Page 25. But don't worry. Whenever in need of service, just send to LA and I will take all things ensuing.
If these are fine with you please let me know then I will accept to proceed.
Will ship to you from Massachusetts by the current ( the only ) owner.


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big_greg
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If all of those things were disclosed before you sent any money, then what's the problem?  How is a grey market item any different than a used item?  Very few manufacturers will honor a warranty for anyone but the original owner.

I recently bought a used phono cartridge that was listed by a seasoned Audiogon seller for a friend of his.  It was an excellent transaction.  It didn't hurt that after some discussion I found out the seller works at a local hifi dealer.
big_greg
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BIG_GREG....BIG difference between a Grey Market Amp and an Amp with No Warranty. If your not the original owner BUT the amp has your country’s voltage and was purchased in your country they will still fix the Amp and charge you for it. If you purchase a GREY MARKET amp they will refuse to work on it PERIOD. Thats a HUGE factor to consider.

That's not necessarily true and will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.  I have more familiarity with this issue as a photographer.  For example, if you buy a Canon camera from another country (international or "grey market"), Canon won't honor the warranty.  They will repair it.  The same holds true for many products.  I've never heard of a manufacture refusing to repair an item because it was an international model.  It seems unlikely, since Gryphon is not made in the U.S.  Have you contacted them and been told that they won't perform repairs?

There's also the option of having a local repair center make any needed repairs.  Is there something proprietary about their amps that would force you to ship it to Denmark rather than have a local (or at least US based) dealer service it?

I agree that the seller should have been forthcoming with those details in the ad itself, but I'm having a hard time understanding how it's a "Deceptive add" (SIC).
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