Friends hi-fi system not very good, what do you do or say?


So you're going over to someones home and they give you a tour and they have a hi-fi system in a room. And while visiting of course they turn it on for you not knowing that you have a very nice system in your home and you notice immediately it's just not very good.  But then you're used to the very in you're listening experiences. So what do you do when they ask you what you think?

Do you say sounds really good?

Do you make suggestions?

Do you feel a desperate need to tell them about your system?

Personally, I try not to mention any details about my system. If I'm driving around in a Lamborghini I would prefer to be invisible so I don't get stared at when I get out of my car. If they had a really nice system with interesting components I would probably mention a few of the things I have and then we could bond with our common interests.   Ideally, it would be cool to be in the presence of someone who knew a lot more than I did and a real learning opportunity.

Audio systems tend to be private affairs I guess.  I don't necessarily want to hang out with someone and listen to tunes. Those wonderful College days where it made a lot of sense are long gone.

emergingsoul

I've been there. Say it's nice, then let them listen to yours. Let them draw their own conclusions. 

A friend has asked me for advice and I am perfectly willing to give it. However, I soon learned that he had made some decisions that aren't open for discussion.  His system is based on an Onkyo int. amp. and CD player, entry level phono player w/built-in phono preamp,  He has small three way floor standers, name not visible to me and forgotten by buyer.  He has basic computer streaming, but no external DAC.  No power conditioning.  All is connected with cheap cables and lamp wire.  The set up is in large room with a high slanted ceiling, hardwood floors, no rugs.  The speakers are placed against the front wall with maybe six inches clearance.  It sounds, well, like you'd expect.  Instruments and voices are indistinct with no identifiable sound stage.  There is perceptible itermodulation distorition.  Wall placement seems to be non-negotiable.  He is awaare that something isn't right and would like to fix it.  Rather than suggest new gear I am urging him to experiment with different speaker placements before he does anything else.  Once he discovers that his system can be improved with some simple set up changes -- Move the speakers away from the walls, maybe tilt them inward, and lay down a throw rug or two.  If he hears improvements than perhaps he will be OK with new speaker placement.  Or, at least he will know that he needs speakers that will accommodate his decorating preferences.  My expectation is that his basic Onkyo setup would sound OK if set up properly in a smaller room and might even be OK in his large room, even though, YES! I yearn to recommend some great bang-for-the-buck components we all know about, modestly priced power conditioning, better wire.  But that might be a bridge too far for my friend.  What is good enough to him might never satisfy me.  But if he's happy, why shouldn't I be?  I'd rather keep him as a friend than nag at him to improve his system along lines that I would like.  And besides, it's fun to go home, listen to my own gear, and smile.

In his 1880 essay, "On the Decay of the Art of Lying," Mark Twain suggests that people should lie thoughtfully and judiciously, with a good object, and for the benefit of others. He also suggests that people should lie gracefully, firmly, and frankly, with their head erect.

people love being told, by an expert, that they are doing it wrong.

gopher it

My 71 year old sister in law has listened to AM radio all her life so any frequency over 5K Hz is 'shrill'.

So when she comes over for a listen I have to turn the treble on my CA-7A NAK pre-amp down all the way and boost the bass all the way up.

At which time she says it's 'perfect'.

Remember folks, SQ is strictly subjective.