Footers under new speakers


Hi , I’m seeking advice regarding footers and/or platforms under my speakers. I purchased Tekton Double Impact’s and have heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor. House is 35 years old, cement is thick and well cured. I’m from that old mindset of spikes into cement and I am looking for an improvement. I’ve looked online at Gaia footers and Herbie's Studded Giant Gliders. I emailed Herbie’s and specifically inquired about the studded gliders alone on the DI’s over carpet. I asked about stability and was told the speakers were “ heavy enough “. Unfortunately I just set up the DI’s temporarily to get a little break in time. They are without any footers upright on my carpet. At 115 lbs the speaker does about zero to compress the carpet. I understand weight Vs footprint is abysmal but they won’t even stand straight. I’ll probably put the spikes on for a bit until I formulate a plan. But my first concern is that Herbie’s gliders alone are not enough and due to the minimum cost of the speakers I am struggling with purchasing Gaia’s footers and footer spikes. The seismic stands look exceptional, but I’m trying to be frugal. So I’m looking for suggestions like, gliders or dots with or without spikes on wood / stone plinths spiked to the floor. My goal is to try some sort decoupling (Gliders / Springs / Dots) AND eliminate the need of having to rely on the carpet being compressed. And yes I have cheap speakers and seek a cheap solution, so I get that limitation. Unfortunately I can’t afford Tannoy’s or Fynes to compliment my 180 watt tube mono blocs for at least a year. Cheers , Mike B. 

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@pindac , Once again thank you for your comments. This came at the perfect time as I’m gathering items for my new setup. Of high importance is a new rack for my gear. I did some online searching and came across the ENJOYYOURSHELF article. My intent is to commission one of my woodworking friends to build one that looks similar to Timber Nation products, but on a beer budget. I will certainly study his designs and incorporate them into my equipment shelf. Regards , Mike B. 

@buellrider97 This Thread is a now a reference to how not to overly Spend on Separation and Isolation for Speakers, there is enough info on here to reassure a visitor they can achieve a great deal with a well thought out Support produced as a DIY Design through to using Products purposely produced for such a role as reducing Migrating Amplitude having an impact on a Audio Device.

I will state once more I own AT 616 Pneumatic Footers and these are extremely effective at their role where ever used. When the 616 is under a Cabinet Speaker they are immediately discernible for the Improvement added. The 616 footers as a result of being loaned, have been instrumental in others being swung to discover products that offer a similar impact on End Sound being heard.

Where the AT 616 fail is that they can't improve on a DIY Multi Tier Sub Support used with a Cabinet Speaker, when used in conjunction with a Multi Tier Support, they add little if any betterment, but do add a variant to the End Sound, a different strength of seasoning is a good fit for the change made.

I am happy that Barry Diament is alluring to you, it is not the wrong place to acquire Info. It is prudent to avoid the common analogy thinking, that if its not costing an Increased  Mortgage, it is a failure.

I can add to this Thread info for Equipment Racks, if this Thread is wanted to be used or a New Thread is to be produced, I will contribute when I see what is decided.      

@pindac Sorry if this has already been stated,.. wondering if the Enjoyyourshelf method has been compared with the Townshend?  That would be an interesting experiment for those that already have the Townshend platforms for cheap.  But I can understand potential backlash from disclosing this information.  ;-)

@ OP "heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor"

why bother? additional pads help to reduce motion to the floor, which is not possible to shake in this case 

@trecool99 How can there be a Back Lash, when Companies are taking on the ideas of enthusiasts.

Companies in general adds a little bling and put into a Sales Spiel the great results that have been attained.

AT 616 - SolidTech - Gaia - Townsends all offer much of s Muchness, but Home Designs will produce the same much of a Muchness.

For other Air Suspension Options there is the Furniture Lifting Air Bags referred to in other Posts in the Thread, these are ideal substitutes for an Inner Tube, and might have been the Air Reservoir used in older design if the Air Bags were easy to acquire.

The intention is to Capture and dissipate Amplitude, and more that one material is usually the better option, I refer to it as Multi Tiers.

Try any device above used in conjunction with a Resin Impregnated Densified Wood Board and there will be betterment added to the Amplitude Management do the same for Two Tiers and again something further as a betterment will be added.

It is really down to the assemblers knowledge of materials that are able to be used, and footer/separator designs that are to work best in a very unique environment.

There is not a Ubiquitous Answer on how a End Sound is able to be tidied up to the point it is quite impressive. Each Audio System Owner will also have their own preference for what is perceived as a Tidied Up End Sound.

Each listening space and the Listener Occupying it, offers a own unique Pattern for the Migration of Ambient Energies Amplitude and Unique End Result for what is considered a improved space due to managing energy designs adopted.