Footers under new speakers


Hi , I’m seeking advice regarding footers and/or platforms under my speakers. I purchased Tekton Double Impact’s and have heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor. House is 35 years old, cement is thick and well cured. I’m from that old mindset of spikes into cement and I am looking for an improvement. I’ve looked online at Gaia footers and Herbie's Studded Giant Gliders. I emailed Herbie’s and specifically inquired about the studded gliders alone on the DI’s over carpet. I asked about stability and was told the speakers were “ heavy enough “. Unfortunately I just set up the DI’s temporarily to get a little break in time. They are without any footers upright on my carpet. At 115 lbs the speaker does about zero to compress the carpet. I understand weight Vs footprint is abysmal but they won’t even stand straight. I’ll probably put the spikes on for a bit until I formulate a plan. But my first concern is that Herbie’s gliders alone are not enough and due to the minimum cost of the speakers I am struggling with purchasing Gaia’s footers and footer spikes. The seismic stands look exceptional, but I’m trying to be frugal. So I’m looking for suggestions like, gliders or dots with or without spikes on wood / stone plinths spiked to the floor. My goal is to try some sort decoupling (Gliders / Springs / Dots) AND eliminate the need of having to rely on the carpet being compressed. And yes I have cheap speakers and seek a cheap solution, so I get that limitation. Unfortunately I can’t afford Tannoy’s or Fynes to compliment my 180 watt tube mono blocs for at least a year. Cheers , Mike B. 

buellrider97

Showing 13 responses by ronboco

I think the 2 major factors in deciding whether to use footers or not are of course the type of floor you are on and the speakers themselves. A suspended wood floor would definitely require footers of some type regardless of speaker used. On a concrete floor you won’t get near the vibrations but still may benefit from footers. I think this is where the type of speaker you have comes in. Smaller lighter speakers might still be susceptible to vibrations but a heavier speaker    with a very robust cabinet I believe would not realize much benefit. I put a dual indicator on top of my speaker with no sound and the needle didn’t move. I then played music including heavy bass edm and the needle move .006-.008 of an inch. Very little vibration in my opinion. 
@hilde45 

In your test at your friends house what is the jump you are talking about when tapping on one speaker? Was it a jump in sound or did you do a measurement like I did? 

@hilde45 

What was the measurement you took? It sounds like a test I would like to try. 

Trying to understand the Townsend podiums better I wonder how many here have actually measured how much their speakers are resonating. I would want to know that going in I think. Also why wouldn’t speaker vibrations dissipate in a concrete floor ? What makes them come back up into the spike? 

Also how can we know the platforms don’t alter the pistonic movement of the drivers thus altering the sound? 

@hilde45 

Thank you for your thoughts. It is hard to know if vibrations will keep traveling through the concrete or reflect back up the spikes. I wonder now if my dial indicator test was a true indication of my cabinet resonance. It would be great to actually measure the resonance of the cabinets 

@hilde45 

Yes I do believe I would realize a small if any improvement but emailing Townsend is an excellent idea and I will contact them to see what they say. 

@yyzsantabarbara 

If the speakers are directly on the podiums they should have been vibrating the same as the podiums. 

@yyzsantabarbara 

Since the speaker is coupled to the podium I don’t see how it can’t move in sync with the podium. It is possible I guess that the top of the speaker might move less than the bottom of the speaker which is closest to the podiums. What matters most is that you heard an improvement. Happy listening !

@lemonhaze 

What is the .01db ? Cabinet resonance ? If so I’m not talking about that I am talking about if the cabinet is allowed to move on the podium will it affect the drivers ability to properly produce the notes. 

@buellrider97 

I do think the Townsend Podiums can be an improvement but I think the amount of improvement is very speaker dependent. Especially on concrete which is really pretty stable. In the Townsend video it seems obvious to me that the floor is suspended to get the maximum amount of vibration for the demonstration. I may try them one day but right now I’m not convinced the changes everyone is talking about are solely from eliminating vibrations. I hope you have good luck with your. 

@buellrider97 

I am looking forward to hearing how the podiums do for you. 
 

best regards 

Ron