Enough is Enough


I've been looking at changing my DAC. I was considering Lampizator, Playback Designs, and Ideon. Recently a dealer basically told me(with the exception of my subwoofer and music server) my system sucks. He went on to say, I should sell my amps, preamp, DAC, speakers, and start all over! I've owned several different speakers, amplifiers, and DACs. I've attended shows and several different dealers show rooms. In fact, I directly compared one of the amplifiers the dealer recommended to a Rowland 625 S2 amplifier and preferred the 625 S2. I didn't build my system in a vacuum. I determined what I wanted to spend, listened and purchase what I preferred. I've been in sales and submit it would have been better to recommend a DAC that would improve my system. So now I say, maybe enough is enough; because no matter what I have some dealer will tell me it's crap and I have to start over. 

ricred1

@hgeifman So paypal probalby has good cybersecurity...but we thought all the airlines did too.  and we thought United Healthcare did too.  Now most of our SSNs and healthcare history is on the dark web.  

and did Audiogon really erase it or did they just delete it and it is sitting there waiting for a skilled hacker to restore it?

I'll pass.

Jerry

In my experience, dealers are useless. I'd love to give a brick and mortar store my business, but so far it's been mostly disappointing. 

- when looking for a TT upgrade, shop said LP-12 or bust. Said I don't like the LP12, never got a reply, so went elsewhere.

- Tried to get a Pass amp and also a Rega table from local stores, but they cannot provide.

- Tried to get some TT education and requested testing set-up (at their discretion) to find out whether I could hear differences plinths. Flat out refused/could not do it. And that was a major, well-known player, from whom I bought stuff before. The critical mind wonders why that could be ...

- bottom line, I just pick equipment based on reviews&discussions then find someone who can ship. So far so good.

If the salesman wasn’t the owner/manager, I would have a conversation with the manager regarding the salesman’s comments regarding your current system. Obviously, the salesman must use this tactic to generate sales. Unfortunately, he just ran into someone who is experienced and isn’t intimidated by these tactics. Again, talk to the owner and describe how they lost this sale as well as all future sales. I would also warn your local audio club members. 

I've had some great experiences with really good dealers. My most recent experience seems to be a more common theme with several people. How does this hobby grow, if dealers refuse to meet potential customers were they are? Everyone can't spend or doesn't want to spend over $50K for a component. 

carlsbad2, 

Thanks for the invite, but I live in Texas. For some reason I decided to stay away from tube based DACs. I will drive to Dallas before the new year and directly compare the Dave to the Ideon ION DAC. Although it will be different from my system, it should allow me to identify discernible differences between the two.