Enough is Enough


I've been looking at changing my DAC. I was considering Lampizator, Playback Designs, and Ideon. Recently a dealer basically told me(with the exception of my subwoofer and music server) my system sucks. He went on to say, I should sell my amps, preamp, DAC, speakers, and start all over! I've owned several different speakers, amplifiers, and DACs. I've attended shows and several different dealers show rooms. In fact, I directly compared one of the amplifiers the dealer recommended to a Rowland 625 S2 amplifier and preferred the 625 S2. I didn't build my system in a vacuum. I determined what I wanted to spend, listened and purchase what I preferred. I've been in sales and submit it would have been better to recommend a DAC that would improve my system. So now I say, maybe enough is enough; because no matter what I have some dealer will tell me it's crap and I have to start over. 

ricred1

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Your dealer is probably a moron, and probably desperate to hit your wallet after throwing you in a rabbit hole.

It looks like you have some good gear. Why do you even need a new dac? What’s wrong with your dac? Looks to me like you don’t need a new dac.

The only issue seems to be that your single sub is most probably in the wrong location and very poorly integrated.If you have 24ft, speakers are say 4 or 5 ft from the wall and you are sitting 10 ft away from speakers, you have ample space to put that sub behind you....That’s where it most probably should be. Sub placed up for aesthetic reasons is most probably a fail.

Do you have a mic/REW? Ever measure anything?

You could also put something diffusive at the ipsilateral/contralateral reflection points.

deep_333,

You can’t see my other sub, but I have two subs. The subs were set-up by the dealer using a mic/REW and several hours of listening,

@ricred1 , Well, considering where everything’s at with your 2 channel gear you are pretty much stuck there..

unless, you get a li’l more adventurous and get a BACCH processor from Theortica Applied Physics. You may never know what it feels like to get launched inside a recording until you have something like BACCH in the chain (for 2 channel audio, that is, multichannel’s a different story).

Otherwise, you could keep swapping dacs, amps, cables, etc forever... with no quantum leap, it is just another case of being stuck in the same watering hole comparing notes with the same ol’ guys who are stuck there as well...(thinking y’all heard this or that).

Further, If you need to know about the kind of room treatment that gets you notches further in a dedicated room like yours (something you could strive towards in the longer term), it isn’t cheap or easy to do...(a bit cheaper if you’re diy savvy though).

Here’s one if you’re NOT a diy kinda guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-ydC9IB0G8

Here’s another if you are a diy kinda guy.

https://youtu.be/tKWAI21G0bc?si=Q7GARnEkHvC26dJ7

Hope that helps.

 

deep_333,

Thanks for the information. I already sent AcousticFields an email.

Hope it works out for ya... I bought the ACDA carbon panels, as is from them. For diffusion, i went the diy route and followed their formula (formula, wood, saw, glue, nails, garage, saved some cash). You can see what they suggest for your room.

With your room size and a few of these acdas in there, taking care of the 'room resolution' bottleneck.. you're in for something you never heard at any show or anywhere...There's nothing wrong with being curious about different gear, different flavors. But, once you address the above mentioned and create the right foundation, you won't be 'missing' anything with your existing gear (diving into rabbit holes). 

I believe their core market is still pro, upper echelon studios, etc...but, it seems more audiophiles have caught on to it in recent times.