Has anyone compared the tsd15 SFL with the new tsd SFL?
EMT 75th Anniversary series... TSD75 SFL ... and a bit of history.
For a long time I was fascinated by EMT studio and broadcast turntables, tonearms and cartridges..... but mainly because of the design, look here.
Thanks for the recent incarnation of the TSD series with TSD 75th Anniversary models (with standard mounting, specs for 3 versions are here), because of the model SFL (Super FineLine stylus tip), I finally joined the club.
** Actually, EMT introduces the Super-Fine-Line diamond shape for the Tondose model in 1984. The stylus radius is 6 microns. Together with the change of the VTA to 23° (according to DIN IEC 98), high-frequency distortion was reduced significantly. In the 80’s the SFL version was labelled with a golden type plate.
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In 2015 the EMT TSD-75 SFL (Super FineLine) appeared in the market:
Cantilever: Aluminium
Transducer: MC Stereo
Magnet: AlNiCo, nickel-plated
Body: Aluminium, black anodized, magnesium inlay
Connection: 1/2" – 4pin
Weight: 12g Tracking force: 2,4g
Output voltage: 1.05mV @ 5cm/s
Compliance: 12µm/mN
Frequency response: 20 - 25‘000Hz
"TSD" is for Tondose Stereo Diamond
"75" is for 75th anniversary edition
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The EMT 75th Diamond Jubilee Celebrating 75 Years Of Our Company
75 YEARS INNOVATION & EXCELLENCE
The EMT - Founder Wilhelm Franz was born 1913 in Bremen. His professional way led him first to Berlin, where he was involved with measuring instrument development and sales. Afterwards he went to C. Lorenz AG who gave him the possibility to collect as deputy directors/conductors of the measuring laboratories a rich wealth of experience.
1940 with 27 years he created in Berlin his own company "Electrical Measuring Technology Wilhelm Franz KG" (short EMT). Highly sensitive control and measuring instruments for the messages and radio technology secured for the company soon a good reputation. The very first EMT product, a test voltmeter called the PV62, is still featured as a stylized measurement device in the company logo.
Short before end of WW 2 the company relocated to Dingelsdorf at the Bodensee and briefly later to Lahr in the Black Forest. The end of war brought also for EMT the disassembly, and so only at the beginning of 1948 the enterprise could be taken up gradually again.
The 1950 ties were a time of new-found prosperity for EMT and the company also entered into a close partnership with Swiss company Studer. For decades, the two companies established a global sales and distribution network together and equipped broadcast and recording studios with premium products from both of their ranges.
For Hi-Fi insiders best-known products are probably the record players:
EMT 927 with a platter by a diameter of 44 cm, a 12" tone arm and a total weight of over 40 Kg, today extremely rare and
The EMT 930 the all-time classic broadcast record player that was in use for decades and still serves today in private homes
EMT 950 the first direct driven EMT - Turntable with its successors
EMT 948 and EMT 938
O-series carts for mono records (introduced 1959)
TSD 15 mc-system, introduced 1965 and still in production
XSD 15 mc-system with tonearms with SME standard connection Other equipment lines were in addition, just as important as reverberation devices, compressors and Limiter, in order to call here only some.
Many of these devices as the world-famous EMT 140 reverberation plate, the EMT 240 reverberation foil “with the golden sound” and, in 1976, the world’s first fully-electronic reverberator, the EMT 250 with digital signal processing, set yardsticks at their time and are partially also still in professional use today.
After Wilhelm Franz had died 1971, Erich R. Vogl resumed, during many years the company. 1989 EMT was sold to the Belgian company BARCO and the company arose afterwards under the name BARCO - EMT at the market. In consequence many activities of the EMT were stopped. After the development department close down, the company headquarters served the sales of the BARCO products.
Only a small core team of the earlier EMT remained active and August 2003, EMT was sold by BARCO to Walter Derrer, who comes from the pro audio range. In 2007, however, Walter Derrer lost his life in a tragic airplane crash. Since then, the company’s previous head of engineering, product- and marketing manager Jules Limon has been heading up EMT Studiotechnik alone. As single owner and managing director, he can draw on extensive experience in theory and practice. Born in 1953, the skilled radio and television electronic engineer studied marketing and management in St. Gallen and was running his own Hi-Fi studio already at the early age of 20. The Swiss also worked amongst other roles as technical manager at TEAC/ TASCAM, was in charge of exports, professional marketing and strategic reorientation “in the post-Willi Studer era” at STUDER HQ in Regensdorf, Switzerland and spent years in and out of the world’s most famous Radio-, TV- and Recording studios.
Limon’s commitment to the EMT future is possibly best reflected in the design and development of the “J” components. In fact all the developments of the Jubilee series are assignable to him. The JSD carts, based upon the professional pick-up cartridges were carefully modified particularly for Hi-Fi purposes and presented by EMT as part of the 66th company anniversary celebrations in 2006. The remarkably versatile, high-quality and extremely well engineered JPA66 Phono- and Preamplifier, released in the same year, is a striking cornerstone of the “new EMT”. Besides its two line inputs, the two-part high-end device has no less than four Phono inputs, and its complex and variable control options enable all imaginable play- back curves and pick-up cartridges to be perfectly reproduced. In the signal path, exclusively selected tubes take charge of the music signal, and the JPA66 can drive and control any power amplifier.
To celebrate the company’s 75th anniversary, specific details of the JPA66, which has been produced for nearly a decade, were improved. It was not, however, renamed, but just given a discreet Mkll. More products will enhance EMT’s 2015 anniversary year, for example the pick-up cartridge systems JSD S75 and TSD75, both of which are additions to the existing range. Under the leadership of Jules Limon, the EMT team will also continue to provide the high-end community with high- quality products which are made to last. All are produced in Western Europe, and are uniformly and painstakingly made by hand using small-scale production.
P.S. Here is an article about EMT in Russian.
There is also the HSD 006, which retails for $1,595, according to a not so recent write up. It has a Super Fine Line stylus tip, and an alnico magnet. Great info on your 2/4 post Chakster. Has anyone heard any of the higher end EMT's. I've been running a TSD-15 or 75 variant for many years. Needles to say, I enjoy their performance. Can't say I've never thought about moving up the line though. That VM (Variable Mass) version is interesting. |
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@lewm My old Zu Druid speakers moved backward just because I use Tannoy System 15 mkII as my main speakers now. Before I bought the Tannoy it was slightly different position. When my Tannoy System has arrived I just placed them like this. It took some time to figure out that I can use my Audio-Technica adjustable pneumatic insulators to change the attack angle of the cabinets and now in my listening chair the angle is right. maybe in the future I will make a custom stands for Tannoy. Zu speakers are connected and can be used, but it’s a compromise, the position is not ideal even if I can’t detect any airborne problems at all. Anyway, I have no room for Zu and can’t move them anywhere. I am fascinated about Tannoy and mostly listening to music on Tannoy now. Bi-Wire configuration is noticeably better and I love Tannoy with Yamamoto A-08S (45 tubes). |
Thanks. My turntables in the main system are not Technics :) Two Luxman PD-444 with Fidelity-Research FR64s, FR64fx and now 66fx, Lustre GST 801 is what I’m running @fjn04 With EMT TSD75 I received Shelter 5000 to fill my collection of modern MC cartridges (even if they are not the latest models, they are still modern compared to my rare NOS carts from the past). |
I’ve had a TSD-15, and now TSD-75 for as long as I can recall. They give long life, and one would be hard pressed to do better for the money. I have two other cartridges here, but the 75 seems to stay on my tonearm. I know you’re running a Technics... let us know how it works out for you. Congrats on the purchase. |
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Seamail is so slow, but finally I got my EMT TSD75 Look at this cute package with a handwritten letter from the Japanese seller. I’m always happy to support honest sellers who take care of their customers. See what’s inside! |
Chakster, if you'll look into old Jico replacement stylus for sale you'll find that most of them are bonded conical 0,5 mil size. Most of records was played in old times with circa 0,7- 1 mil conical diamonds so 0,5 mil are very OK with old worn records. Nowadays you can source not bonded, polished 0,5 mil diamonds they are even better. |
@vortrex I wouldn’t rule anything out because of the stylus profile. The new DaVa field coil cartridge is conical and by all accounts it’s in the upper echelon of the current crop of high dollar cartridges. Yeah, some designers like it. Comparing conical to many other profiles in my system it was the worst (always), so in my opinion conical sound is old school. Using conical tip with vintage records is the worst situation, because most of those vintage records previously played with same conical tip and definitely slightly worn at this are of the groove walls. The cure is advanced profile that can ride in previously untouched part of the groove. This is one of the main reason I don’t use conical (90% of my records are originals from the 70s). DaVa cartridge is definitely inspired by JVC Victor Direct Couple type and Ikeda cantileverless design LOMC (but those old Ikeda and Victor comes with LineContact and Shibata). DaVa is cool looking retro cartridge, never seen it before, thanks. |
I know exactly what you’re talking about about rubber damper, I just mentioned that even with a perfect damper this cartridge with Conical tip is a broadcast model for radio use and it can’t be even close to the same cartridge with advanced profile like Fine Line or F.Gyger they are using now. EMT has been sold a few times and now it’s a different company with completely different cartridges. |
SPH is for Sperical tip, it can be OK, but for a proper reproduction there must be a better stylus profile. Read tuchan’s comments in this thread: "If you especially go for a TSD15 Lzi you will go for one of the great carts in this audio world - the Japanese know, most European and American not." |
Thanks Chak, interesting information. I really had no idea there were so many variations. It appears that the new owners of the brand have taken more than a hint from Ortofon with the introduction of all these Anniversary and 'special' editions. Apparently that is what today's high end customer wants: limited series and exclusivity. Indeed they've come a long way from the original broadcast Tondosen that remained unchanged for decades. |
More from the History of the legendary German Broadcast Pick-Ups: In The 70-Ties The XSD 15 became available for direct connection to popular Hi-Fi-Tonearms (SME or others with appropriate connection) and EMT started custom developments and production runs for OEM partners. Modern tip shapes and technical improvements provided a linear frequency response well beyond the audio band, and a substantial reduction of distortions at high frequencies. 1992 Came The HSD-6, EMT’s first cart with a standard ½ Inch attachment for the Hi-Fi market. *** It Wasn’t before 2006 that something new came to the marketplace: In 2006 the first JSD cart, The “Silver”, was Introduced! Developed for the occasion of EMT’s 66th Anniversary, the JSD-5 and JSD-6, two new MC-Systems were launched. They Immediately won awards like “Product Of The Year 2006”. 2007/08 The TSD-15 LZI with low output, low impedance and international connection was introduced. 2008/09 The Jubilee series was extended with the JSD G, now completely gold plated and made of a special high grade alloy. All JSD Cartridges employ highly polished bare diamond styli on Boron cantilever, either In Gyger S or Super FineLine shape and strong AlNiCo Magnets. In order to celebrate 75 YEARS EMT In 2015, The TSD-75 is being introduced and is the latest addition to the legendary EMT Stereo Cart line that started Its prof. broadcasting life In 1965. The stereo and or mono cartridges come with ½-Inch standard fastening and diamond tips in numerous versions. While The JSD Silver and JSD Gold use Diamonds On Boron, the new JSD Platinum and JSD S75 Anniversary use Diamonds on Sapphire cantilever. EMT‘s most authentic and musical stereo phono carts with body made from and milled out of a massive block of special aluminum, for The JSD Gold Out of a massive block of high-grade, gold resp. platinum plated alloy for The Platinum Version. Gold plated system components with ALNiCo magnets, ½-Inch standard fastening for the use with every high-quality tone arm. Especially polished, bare and natural diamond stylus of the highest available quality. JSD 5; Gyger S Diamond on Boron ($4700+) ** Another interesting model is EMT JSD VM Reference series: VM = VARIA MASS The JSD VM is the only cartridge that allows the user to tune the resonance behavior according the tonearm specification and personal preference. It comes with three inlay bolts made of different materials. All EMT reference-line cartridges feature a multi-facet diamond on sapphire cantilever. The unique assembling technology makes it possible to tune the individual sound properties of this high-resolution transducer unit to maximum musicality. JSD VM; Diamond On White Sapphire ($6300+) JSD Pure Lime ($5500+) All parts and works, including the diamond shaping process – this is both; an art and a science – are entirely Made In West Europe. |
Anyone hear the new 80th Anniversary cartridges? Sapphire cantilever and silver coil. A big departure from the traditional TSD. https://www.emt-tontechnik.ch/files/productfile/Specs-TSD-Anniversary.pdf https://www.emt-tontechnik.ch/files/productfile/Specs-JSD-Anniversary.pdf |
Well, I hope 75th Anniversary "naked" edition with Super FineLine tip is different from oldschool headshell integrated TSD 15 originally designed for conical tip @edgewear. **Since 2014 EMT Cart manufacturing transferred to Switzerland: After working up to 45 years for EMT continuously, the production team in Mahlberg gets retired. The manufactory of the EMT cartridges is moved step by step to Micha Huber’s company HiFiction AG in Winterthur. In a long-lasting process, all know-how, equipment and tooling is carefully transferred to the young team in Switzerland. **In 2015 the TSD 75 & JSD S75 were introduced: To celebrate the company’s 75th anniversary, the TSD75 is introduced being the latest addition to the legendary EMT Stereo cart line. The JSD S75 complements the reference line with a light cartridge body. |
Well yes, sort of. My Boulder 1008 has the facility to tailor the load impedance to any required value up to 1000 ohms, but unfortunately it offers just one gain level (70dB for MC). This is well suited to (very) low output systems and even the Ortofon MC 2000 with 0.05mV works without any noticable hum or hiss. But it's less practical with higher output systems, like the 1mV output of the EMT. Of course I would have kept it if the sound of the EMT was exceptional, but to my ears that was not the case. |
The high output and internal impedance of the EMT didn’t sit too well with my system, which is more tailored towards (very) low output, low impedance types. Do you mean your phono stage? @edgewear I don’t see any problem with EMT high output and high impedance if a phono stage have adjustments of gain and load impedance (like Gold Note PH-10 for example). |
@chakster I’ve used EMT XSD 15 SFL (SME bajonet) and Thorens MCH I retipped with vdH stylus (EMT bajonet with Ortofon adapter). They’re archetypical systems and the basic design platform for many well regarded MC designers, like vdHul and Benz in their early days. They both sounded quite nice, but in my opinion no match for the higher level SPU’s (Reference, Royal and A85/90/95) or Ikeda’s FR7fz and MC702, with which these old school Tondosen should probably be compared. The high output and internal impedance of the EMT didn’t sit too well with my system, which is more tailored towards (very) low output, low impedance types. So they found new owners...... It looks like the specs of this new TSD 75 are very similar to these oldies, so I wonder if much has changed sonically. |
@chakster The review of the 3 cartridges is specious in my view for the following reasons - All 3 cartridges are low compliance, the SME 2-9 is not up to the job. The AMG Giro is certainly better matched, but it is not reference standard. All 3 cartridges were tested using stepup transformers. No alternative step up devices transistor/tube were trialled or alternative phono stages. Quite honestly, I dont doubt what he heard in his system, but you cant make definitive conclusions as presented unless you have tried these cartridges in a range of arms and phono stages. Only then will you see a pattern of common differences emerge between the cartridges. The review reads like a car magazine - basically an advertorial. |
Herb Reicherd on EMT, Koetsu and Miyajima in his review at Stereophile magazine (2018). Tested those 3 carts: -Koetsu Rosewood Standard ($3495) -EMT TSD 75th Anniversary SFL ($2150) -Miyajima Saboten ($4875) His summary on page-2 is interesting: "Choosing only one of these cartridges could be an anxiety-provoking enterprise. To help you think more clearly about them, I’ve summarized my observations: The Koetsu Rosewood Standard’s bass range was the biggest, strongest, most exciting; the EMT TSD75DFL’s was the tightest and most finely detailed; and the Miyajima Laboratory Saboten’s was exquisite but slightly unforceful. The EMT’s midrange was the most detailed but the least colorful, the Koetsu’s the most dense and colorful, and the Miyajima’s the most relaxed and transparent. Overall, musical instruments sounded most like themselves through the Koetsu, choirs sounded most like individual singers through the EMT, and singers were scintillatingly real with the Miyajima. In Short: The EMT seemed the highest resolving, the Koetsu the most vivid, the Miyajima the most natural. Each of these cartridges confirmed my status as a lucky guy. Doing the work for this month’s "Gramophone Dreams" was the most pleasure I have experienced as a Stereophile reviewer. God bless analog!" - Herb Reicherd |
Thanks, some reviews with pictures for our readers: + In Stereo Magazine from 2015 for download (.pdf) + In German here More about EMT history and their products on official website. |