Did your system getting better the more money you spent or more experience you gained?


This is something that wanted to ask folks. Initially I said I would never spend x amount of dollars in this audio journey. 20 years later I’m here and did what I said I wouldn’t but I’m happier than ever. Best system to this date. But it wasn’t about money only. I gained knowledge on what was possible and the quality and design of the gear I wanted. I see people just throw money into audio and never be happy or satisfied. I think that happens because they don’t think for themselves as well as have the resources? Thoughts ?

calvinj

Thanks for your confirmative experience about crosstalk universal obstructive effect...

 

Most people have no idea how and why all stereo systems are flawed...

And Speakers sellers wont say it guess why ?

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Add to crosstalk destructive effect , no vibrations/resonance controls, no electrical grid noise floor control and no dedicated acoustic room...

Buying costly dac or a costlier turntable will not solve all these problems repeating the false mantra that the source is everything.

What is the source ? Not the dac nor the turntable but the specific recording trade-off choices process we must translate with our speakers/room/ears...

What make this acoustic translation from the recording SOURCE process difficult ?

Crosstalk in any stereo system and lack of electrical,mechanical and acoustical controls.. ( i called them embeddings controls because i used many homemade devices embedded in these working mechanical,electrical and acoustical working dimensions)

Many people dont even know what is the source of information they think it is their dac... 😁

The primary source are the choices of the recording engineer in each albums different form, which must be acoustically translated and delivered by your speakers/room/ears... Your system convey this acoustic information and impede or/and help it in many ways thats all ...

The source is the acoustic information chosen and related to the recording process and this is this SOURCE which we are pleased to listen to and experience with our system/room/ears ...The dac is like a cable or an amplifier a way to convey, more or less well , this acoustic chosen set of trade off choices by the recording engineer which are this specific album source ...

The source of my life is not ONLY my actual body but FIRST my parents bodies encounter and genetic trade-off so to speak...

In audio people dont think this way about the source because their focus is on the gear possible next upgrade not on acoustics nor about embeddings controls to recreate the acoustic source : the acoustic specific atmosphere of each album...

They think that a piece of gear create the sound... 😁😊

A piece of gear contribute thats all... The sound acoustic information exist already in each album then how can my speakers/room/ears can translate it in the best way ? A change of cable or dac will help or not but could hardly be the solution about an acoustic problem ...

I like your three speakers idea and creativity... Congratulations...

 

@mahgister

I’m with you on the crosstalk reduction. I haven’t heard BACCH, but I’ve set up the physical crosstalk barriers and had my mind blown, and now I’m using my own 3 speaker array method to deal with comb filtering caused by interaural crosstalk. This is my main area of audiophile interest now. Interaural crosstalk is the 600lb gorilla in the room to my ears. 2 speakers playing across your head is a seriously compromised setup for anything other than sounds panned hard left to one speaker or the other, and I don’t think there’s any way to correct it with recording methods or mixing/mastering - unless some kind of crosstalk reduction is mixed into the recording - which means it’ll only work in very specific listening configurations. Multi-channel recordings with 5.1 or 7.1 setups bring their own headaches, although I think those could be solved with a specially designed room, but only if the people who mix the recordings properly take advantage of what’s there. I know that many feel it’s a non-issue. Hence, Sonus Faber just put out a 2 channel speaker system for $750,000. You wouldn’t put that much into a system if you thought it was inherently flawed, I wouldn’t think

Definitely more experience. The more experience I gained, the better able I was to sift through the hype and get to real quality. When I started out 50+ years ago, I made some really stupid errors. I can't say that now, my moves are perfect, but I haven't bought any really lousy gear in a long, long time.

Definitely became better as I spent more dough, but the vast majority was spent on speakers, big ones. And the difference is not apparent in 90% of the music we play.  Experience taught me that it’s not terribly difficult to get great sound with a fairly modest budget if you listen carefully to your ears, not to the advice of reviewers and marketers. I’ve spent waaay into the six figures range, but get enormous amounts of pleasure from my bedroom system that could be replaced for $5K. When I got really honest with myself, I had to admit that I had gotten way too wrapped up with exotica and bragging rights. Sure, there are some selections that one of my big systems will handle better, but for the vast majority, the bedroom system is just as good.

I think some think there is one good sound when there are actual many types of goood sounds that different systems can bring you. 

A combination of the two!!! Actually, system building is a combination of: Your budget, exposure and experience/knowledge. You can’t spend money you don't have, so you have to be very thrifty by maximizing what purchasing power you do have, in order to get the most for your money. For example, about 15 years ago, I spent above my budget for speaker cables.  The speaker cables performance  have withstood the test of time.  I have no plans on replacing my 15 year old speaker cables (money well spent).  My speakers have been around for over 15 years as well, and I have no plans of replacing them either, as they are my end- game speakers (money well spent). I just replaced all the other cables in my system, except for my ethernet cables, only because, for what I paid for them, I felt that there was room for improvement and, I was right. This time, I was able to spend enough to purchase cables that I feel are at that level of diminishing returns. I knew going in what cables I wanted, I searched for them online, pre-owned, which allowed me to purchase cables at a significant discount, that I would have never been able to afford new, at retail prices. The cables that I’ve just purchased perform at such a high level of proficiency that they will be in my system for years and years to come. All my purchases over the past 20 years or so were based on: budget, exposure and experience. Happy listening!!!