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Did Amir Change Your Mind About Anything?

It’s easy to make snide remarks like “yes- I do the opposite of what he says.”  And in some respects I agree, but if you do that, this is just going to be taken down. So I’m asking a serious question. Has ASR actually changed your opinion on anything?  For me, I would say 2 things. I am a conservatory-trained musician and I do trust my ears. But ASR has reminded me to double check my opinions on a piece of gear to make sure I’m not imagining improvements. Not to get into double blind testing, but just to keep in mind that the brain can be fooled and make doubly sure that I’m hearing what I think I’m hearing. The second is power conditioning. I went from an expensive box back to my wiremold and I really don’t think I can hear a difference. I think that now that I understand the engineering behind AC use in an audio component, I am not convinced that power conditioning affects the component output. I think. 
So please resist the urge to pile on. I think this could be a worthwhile discussion if that’s possible anymore. I hope it is. 

chayro
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mahgister
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Dont close this thread... It will be useful for others to read ....

They at least will learn that there is many hearing theories not just one...

They will learn that it is not a small electrical set of measures that is the center of audio but psycho-acoustic...

They will learn About the results of Magnasco and Oppenheim captivating experiment...

they will learn something... There is not much to learn in many threads...

Some people hate Amir... This is stupid.... Amir is a market seller and very polite...

i learned a lot with this thread...

Am i the only one learning here ?

😊

it seems so....

those who learned something can manifest and say what they learn ...

No bullshit please...

It is an I. Q. test not a contest in hate...😉😊

Way more interesting than a blind test to know if a cymbal decay is good or not ...

 

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mapman
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I learned that some people think distortion is overrated. 

somethingsomethingaudio
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@texbychoice just read @kevn musings and I think you are right. Very well said. I have learned from @mahgister too, so I agree it would be a pity to close this. People needs to see who Amir is warts and all, and it certainly helped me identify my own biases. 

@kevn you really write well and I love your meditation on audio

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mahgister
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Very good mapman... You are even right...

The problem is that some called "distortion" a bad name something that is used to ease the Ears/brain working when listening music... second and third hamonics are not distortion in a negative sense it is a positive tool based in acoustic...

Some designer use them for long time ago... In S. S. or tube amplification...

Distortion must be CONTROLLED not always eliminated or masked...

but i am not an electronic engineer ... I will shut myself here...

As said Amir i am a philosopher... 😊 It is not false... Even if for him it is almost an insult... For me it is not at all... 😁😊😎

 

I learned that some people think distortion is overrated.

 

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mahgister
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Thanks...

I appreciated Kevn too... and your posts too...

one thing is sure for me, even if Amir is more a market seller than a scientist, he is a gentleman... then we must condemn hateful posts...

 As i said many times i welcome his measures... Not the zealots around him parotting his dogma for the worst...

I invite everyone to read Toole discussion and Dr Choueri discussion on ASR...

There is no competition between ASR and audiogon... To much different sites...

@texbychoice just read @kevn musings and I think you are right. Very well said. I have learned from @mahgister too, so I agree it would be a pity to close this. People needs to see who Amir is warts and all, and it certainly helped me identify my own biases.

@kevn you really write well and I love your meditation on audio

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