All you need is 12AWG OFC.14 will do it for most. Beyond gauge to distance adjustments, you will not hear a difference between cables. None. But if confirmation bias and placebo work for you, more power to you. The mind is a powerful thing. If you think there's going to be a difference, there will be.
DH Labs - Shunyata Cable Comparison
My system for Background:
Harbeth C7ES=XD Speakers
Accuphase P4600 Power Amp
Aurender N20 Streamer
MSB Discrete DAC
This is a new system purchased over the last 6 months. While the system settled in I purchased Blue Jeans cables: Ethernet, Digital XLR, Analog XLR Interconnects, Digital Coax for the Clock connection between the Streamer and DAC and Speaker cables.
Later I upgraded the Ethernet cable with the DH Labs Reunion and the DH Labs Digital XLR. Both these cables provide a noticeable upgrade that I really liked so I put DH on my further upgrade list.I was also interested in the new Gamma line from Shunyata.
The most convenient way to audition cables at home for me is to use The Cable Company's Lending Library. You have 10 days to 2 weeks to evaluate whatever you want to hear. So I borrowed:
DH Labs Air Matrix XLR Interconnects
Shunyata Gamma XLR Interconnects
AND
DH Labs Q10 Signature Speaker Cables
Shunyata Gamma Speaker Cables
I really liked the DH Labs Air Matrix Cryo. It offered a very open, airy and clear presentation somewhat laid back and with a nice a soundstage depth. It was also excellent with voices. The Gammas were also very nice but I found them less open and airy like someone put a lid on the sound.
Leaving the Air Matrix in the system I replaced the Blue Jeans Speaker Cables with the DH Labs Q10s. My quick initial response was that I lost some of the air and the soundstage was not as big so I quickly replaced them with the Gammas which were even less airy and the soundstage did not have the same depth. At this point I was disappointed that neither apparently offered an upgrade to the Blue Jeans.
Thinking about this overnight I felt I really made snap decisions about both cables and I should give each a more extended and varied listen. So the next day I started again with the Q10s. I listened this time for many hours and with a variety of tracks. The sound started to grow on me. I realized that the apparent loss of air was just the Q10s delivering a cleaner high end. Once I became accustomed to this sound I preferred it to the Blue Jeans.
The next day I replaced the Q10s with the Gammas. Again after extended and varied listening I started to notice the strengths of the Gammas: A very refined high end and a deep and impactful bass.I actually started to prefer their sound characteristics over the Q10s even though they were not as open and the soundstage depth was not as deep.
The next day while continuing to listen to the Gammas I realized I missed the extended airy high end and deeper soundstage of the Q10s. Their highs were not as refined but the overall presentation was much more lively and large while the Gammas were refined, controlled and impactful but less lively. As a test I replaced the DH Labs Air Matrix XLRs with the Gammas. The combination of all Gamma was too dark.
I then put the Q10s back in the system and immediately reveled in their larger open and airy soundstage.I then decided to try the Gamma XLRs with he Q10 cables. That was a decent combination that was better than all Gamma or Air Matrix and Gamma but still not as open and lively as the all DH Labs combo.
So my plan is to purchase both DH Labs cables.
I've also learned that I should not quickly dismiss a component. Sometimes the initial difference or characteristic is not a true measure of its overall performance. I really need to listen for several hours and use a wide variety of music to clearly get an understanding of the sound signature of these cables. When I did that the sound of each started to grow on me. My snap judgments caused me confusion and unnecessary retesting.
BTW my Accuphase Amp has a Speaker A/B Selection switch. It has two sets of speaker terminals so I was able to have the Gamma with Banana plugs connected to one set of terminals and the speakers and the Q10s with Spades connected to the other terminals and speakers. This allowed for more convenient switching making the comparison somewhat easier but it was still an adventure.
Next I plan to borrow the DH Labs Coax Interconnects for the Clock and their higher end Digital XLRs. I'll probably try a few of their better power cables at different price points. In my experience DH Labs products really punch above their weight and offer really good value. And I also highly recommend The Cable Company if you want to audition a variety of cables or power conditioners at home.
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@jfrmusic Thanks for sharing your cable auditioning experience with us. Have you tried using a full loom of cables from the same manufacturer? I did a similar audition a few years back and found there are noticeable SQ improvements using the same manufacturer for all cables (power, speakers, interconnects). The other benefit is you'll discover which cable upgrades matter and which may not make much SQ difference. I selected to audition various Shunyata power cables and discovered that using their Omega power cable made a big difference for my dCS Rossini Apex DAC/Streamer but not much difference for my Gryphon Antileon Stereo amp, so I was able to reduce my spend on the 2 power cables it takes to feed the Gryphon Antileon amp. This discovery surprised me since the amp is a Class A amp capable of driving any speakers known to man. I then moved to the Gryphon Pandora preamp to do the same with power cables and XLRs and ended the journey with the selection of Shunyata speaker cables. I've become a big believer of the synergies gained by using a full loom of cables from the same manufacturer. It's likely you can use the same approach with DH Labs cables.
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That’s my plan. I need to replace my Coax/ BNC clock cable to DH Labs. Currently it’s Blue Jeans. Then all my interconnects and speaker cables will be DHLabs. Then I plan to audition their power cables.Also I’ll be surprised if I can find a power cable to replace the stock on my Accuphase amp. So far I haven’t. |
@gbmcleod Well said in many words. My new distributor/dealer with whom I’ve acquired my hopefully last equipment upgrade (Von Schwiekert/Lampizator/Westminster Labs/Jay’s Audio w/VPI/SME IV mod) is a now a good friend as he recognizes my ability to hear from a life of listening and performing acoustic music at major venues in SoCal, as a part-time recording engineer, friends with golden ear hearing and remastering engineer friends. I am also the archivist for two classical music composers. So, with my sizable 61,200 LPs/CDs/78s/R2R recordings I have great experience listening a minimum of 2 hours daily since 2005 and from 1970 to 1980, 6 to 8 hours (chamber music, small scale instrumental) while studying/reading. I also wrote and heard 70+ performances of classical music the Daily Bruin and Royce Hall productions. Truly, my first excellent system consisted of a VPI 19-4/mod. SME IV analog front end with an Audio Research SP14 preamp and Classic 60 amp with unfortunately, electrostat speakers or various types, generic cabling until I got AudioSource until 1995. It is with acoustic music that equipment reveals the totality of it’s/their ability. I enjoy Yello as well but don’t consider their recordings to be adequate to judge a system but it’s useful for dynamics and frequency response. I have all the stereo Mercury Living Stereo LPs/CDs and 1/3 of the monos. The RCA Living Stereo LPs vary greatly as do London/Decca from the 50’s and 60’s but generally could produce wonderous recordings. It is unfortunate that quality of recorded production generally declined in the 1970s and began reviving in the digital era. Unfortunately again, the lack of engineer’s experience with acoustic music and the myriad digital computer treatment to "create" pop music circa 1995 to the present have ruined much recorded music. I just was gifted a Billie Eilish LP. The production values are terrible. Thick, goopy backup music to really juvenile sounding singing that so many friends find superb and they’re in their 60s to 80s. They grew up with the Beatles and Beach Boys, my wife loves rock from the 60’s to 80’s, including Steely Dan, Led Zeppelin, Guess Who, etc. I like them especially when the recordings are good (not so much the manipulated Queen). Well, I suppose one get’s the idea that without hearing acoustic and well recorded/engineered music (Bones Howe and Howard Holzer who was even better than Rudy Van Gelder) there’s difficulty in audio engineering equipment and cabling. |
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