DH Labs - Shunyata Cable Comparison


My system for Background:

Harbeth C7ES=XD Speakers

Accuphase P4600 Power Amp

Aurender N20 Streamer

MSB Discrete DAC

This is a new system purchased over the last 6 months. While the system settled in I purchased Blue Jeans cables: Ethernet, Digital XLR, Analog XLR Interconnects, Digital Coax for the Clock connection between the Streamer and DAC and Speaker cables.

Later I upgraded the Ethernet cable with the DH Labs Reunion and the DH Labs Digital XLR. Both these cables provide a noticeable upgrade that I really liked so I put DH on my further upgrade list.I was also interested in the new Gamma line from Shunyata.

The most convenient way to audition cables at home for me is to use The Cable Company's Lending Library. You have 10 days to 2 weeks to evaluate whatever you want to hear. So I borrowed:

DH Labs Air Matrix XLR Interconnects

Shunyata Gamma XLR Interconnects

AND

DH Labs Q10 Signature Speaker Cables

Shunyata Gamma Speaker Cables

I really liked the DH Labs Air Matrix Cryo. It offered a very open, airy and clear presentation somewhat laid back and with a nice a soundstage depth. It was also excellent with voices. The Gammas were also very nice but I found them less open and airy like someone put a lid on the sound.

Leaving the Air Matrix in the system I replaced the Blue Jeans Speaker Cables with the DH Labs Q10s. My quick initial response was that I lost some of the air and the soundstage was not as big so I quickly replaced them with the Gammas which were even less airy and the soundstage did not have the same depth. At this point I was disappointed that neither apparently offered an upgrade to the Blue Jeans.

Thinking about this overnight I felt I really made snap decisions about both cables and I should give each a more extended and varied listen. So the next day I started again with the Q10s. I listened this time for many hours and with a variety of tracks. The sound started to grow on me. I realized that the apparent loss of air was just the Q10s delivering a cleaner high end. Once I became accustomed to this sound I preferred it to the Blue Jeans.

The next day I replaced the Q10s with the Gammas. Again after extended and varied listening I started to notice the strengths of the Gammas: A very refined high end and a deep and impactful bass.I actually started to prefer their sound characteristics over the Q10s even though they were not as open and the soundstage depth was not as deep.

The next day while continuing to listen to the Gammas I realized I missed the extended airy high end and deeper soundstage of the Q10s. Their highs were not as refined but the overall presentation was much more lively and large while the Gammas were refined, controlled and impactful but less lively. As a test I replaced the DH Labs Air Matrix XLRs with the Gammas. The combination of all Gamma was too dark.

I then put the Q10s back in the system and immediately reveled in their larger open and airy soundstage.I then decided to try the Gamma XLRs with he Q10 cables. That was a decent combination that was better than all Gamma or Air Matrix and Gamma but still not as open and lively as the all DH Labs combo.

So my plan is to purchase both DH Labs cables.

I've also learned that I should not quickly dismiss a component. Sometimes the initial difference or characteristic is not a true measure of its overall performance. I really need to listen for several hours and use a wide variety of music to clearly get an understanding of the sound signature of these cables. When I did that the sound of each started to grow on me. My snap judgments caused me confusion and unnecessary retesting.

BTW my Accuphase Amp has a Speaker A/B Selection switch. It has two sets of speaker terminals so I was able to have the Gamma with Banana plugs connected to one set of terminals and the speakers and the Q10s with Spades connected to the other terminals and speakers. This allowed for more convenient switching making the comparison somewhat easier but it was still an adventure.

Next I plan to borrow the DH Labs Coax Interconnects for the Clock and their higher end Digital XLRs. I'll probably try a few of their better power cables at different price points. In my experience DH Labs products really punch above their weight and offer really good value. And I also highly recommend The Cable Company if you want to audition a variety of cables or power conditioners at home.

 

 

 

 

jfrmusic

Showing 15 responses by jfrmusic

@devinplombier 

I was not being condescending. Honestly I am sorry that some cannot hear the obvious differences between cables. I feel that they are missing out on substantial improvements to their system.

@audphile1 

 

I think he was addressing the sound in my system and felt that I would perceive them as warm. He wasn't addressing resolution which possibly could be masked if the overall sound is too warm. I understand this as I've experienced cables that in my system offer a warmer sound that provides impact at he expense of openess.

@audphile1

Thanks for your information. So far I’m extremely pleased with the DH Labs cables. They really give me a large open soundstage with depth and very extended highs. Vocal tracks are stunning and the bass is clean and solid. So for now I’ll stick with them until I get the upgrade urge. DH Labs cables really perform way above their price point. I think I like cables with silver content as I’ve found all copper cables to be warm and closed in.

@mclinnguy 

All cables from the library are burned in. Another advantage vs buying  Testing and returning because you were not hearing a settled cable. 

@audphile1 

I asked my contact at The Cable Company about the Front Row cables and he said based upon my taste and system I would find them too warm. He said the AU24 SX would be a better match. So I’ll keep that in mind for a future upgrade. 

 

As an update I am going to audition the DH Labs Revelation Silver XLR Interconnects and compare to the Air Matrix Cryos. 

@roadcykler 

Sorry you're not able to hear differences in cables. In some odd way it's a blessing for you. For those of us who can we get closer to the real musical event in our systems with every upgrade.

@mclinnguy 

My thoughts are similar to yours. I was hesitant to start a controversy but it does seem every time there is a discussion about cables among those of us who understand their impact on sound someone is compelled to tell us we’re delusional and wasting our money. I don’t understand the need of some to insert themselves in these discussions when they have nothing to offer but disdain. And yes they are the ones who are always condescending.  

@secretguy

As the OP I must say you have a very distorted reading of my post. To come to the conclusion you stated is hilarious. You just twisted my experience to fit your own position. BTW albums are well recorded because studios and recording engineers pay attention to the quality of the cables. They’re not using lamp cord from Home depot.

@hickamore 

 

I didn’t say it was a background system. I said as background I am specifying the system. 
 

The Harbeths are certainly not overmatched. It is recommended that you give them as much power as possible. They are neutral, very smooth in the upper frequencies and the most life like in the presentation of acoustic and vocal music. Plus they deliver excellent low end response as they are only down 3db at 45 hz. I sold my two REL subs. Also  my room is not large and I sit about 8 feet from the speakers 

@lalitk

Thanks Yes DH Labs still sell bulk cable. I plan to try their top line Corona Power cable for my Amp and their Power Plus Cryo Power Cable for my DAC analog power supply.

@hickamore

Well I bought the speakers first. Then when it was time to get a streamer after listening I just couldn’t unhear the N20. Unfortunately when I demoed the N20 at the store it was also connected to the MSB.. What a combo. So I just decided to go all in for a great source Then looking for an amp that was powerful but not too heavy I focused on the Bryston 4b3. But I also always wanted to hear an Accuphase and once I did again no going back The Streamer, DAC and Amp were all just about the same price. But to be honest the Harbeth speakers are perfect for me and the room I have plus I can lift them. I did audition the Harbeth 30s and Super 5s. Both a lot more money but I really preferred the non monitor like sound of the C7s. They are very open, airy and neutral and have beautiful midrange. I just love their sound. Perfect for Classical, Jazz and Vocals.

 

 

 

@gbmcleod 

 

The Shunyata cables I borrowed from The Cable Company library were burned in. They were not new. Same for the DH Labs. If you need 300+ hours to burn them in then you will have them beyond any trial period. Also Shunyata claims that their new process burns in cables for 5 days so they should sound close to their final sound when purchased. You may be right that the Gammas would reveal their true nature after a few hundred hours but I’d have to buy them to find out. 

@cycles2

That’s my plan. I need to replace my Coax/ BNC clock cable to DH Labs. Currently it’s Blue Jeans. Then all my interconnects and speaker cables will be DHLabs. Then I plan to audition their power cables.Also I’ll be surprised if I can find a power cable to replace the stock on my Accuphase amp. So far I haven’t.