Dealer affiliations and attitudes, assumptions and lack of respectful engagement in audio.


When I started in Audiogon 20 years ago it was a different  place. There was pretty civil discussions with fellow audiogoners. There were audio dealers on the site and there were also hobbyists and it wasn’t a big deal.  I been on the dealer side/business side the last 7 years. Here is what I find. A lot of us tend to be quickly negative and nasty to those who disagree with us. We don’t have the sharing of knowledge spirit that we used to have.  A lot of us want to show others how much smarter than we are than them. In addition to that there seems to be an attitude that if you are a dealer you gotta be shilling instead of just telling the truth. More importantly there seems to be an attitude that audio is the only thing you do. I have a firm in my professional life that I have ran for 25 years. I’m smart enough to know you never know who you are talking to. I just think audiogoners have repeatedly started to step over the line and become HABITUAL LINE STEPPERS and not engage with the necessary level of respect.  A lot of us in the hobby just want to meet and have positive audio and music experiences. Not rage debate! WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS EVERYONE? 

calvinj

@devinplombier - Thank you, I appreciate your comment. I am not going anywhere and I will still make contributions, but I need to stay away from the sh_t shows and negativity.  I have more valuable (to me) and positive things to invest my time on.  It is really a value proposition for me - we all vote with our time.  I will be heading out on a long bike trip soon where I can recharge and realign my priorities.

@mitch2 @devinplombier i agree. I literally had a guy get mad because I couldn’t send him a demo cable fast enough.  Goes crazy. Seems our cables evn though he secretly likes them. Proceeds to bash me every where I go just because he wasn’t prioritized fast enough.  Left a bad taste in my mouth. What a shame. I’m not here to make enemies. I just wanna hear music and suggestions etc. Life is too short 

I think it's interesting that hidden within the comments about civility are veiled (thinly) derogatory statements about politics. Of course, one side is to blame for the lack of decorum. It has to be Fox News. Forget the fact that CNN had Crossfire long before Fox News had a presence. Unfortunately, for some they are unable to keep their politics to themselves. There is plenty of blame to go around. In my opinion one can only control their own contributions and tone. What happened to the Golden Rule? You can probably tell which way I lean but, until this post, I keep it out of here. 

Well, I had a post expressing the opinion that Fox was merely a symptom of a greater societal shift toward incivility rather than its cause. Here it is: 

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@kerrybh  While I do not abide grandstanding or intolerance, I have sometimes responded with a polite version of your point (quoted below.) It's almost always when someone states categorically, from their perspective, that one cannot hear the difference in cables, tweaks, formats etc.

You don’t hear what I hear because your system is crap, too cheap and not good enough to hear what I hear.”