DAC 'Scam' Vid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sg1nYLmLCw

The TL:DW is that any well made Dac should not be more than $200 and anything above that doesn't sound any better since they all use similar cheap chips to do the D/A conversion. Anything above $200 for a DAC is basically snake oil and theres no improvement in sonics.

Appreciate your insights.

smodtactical

That's what a lot of these other Audiogon members love. Snake oil. This DAC thing isn't new,  but add it to the list of things that are killing this hobby.

When you can buy a state of the art transport for $3,000 but a state of the art DAC costs $15,000, something is wrong.

Are you paying for parts, voodoo, or doodoo?

The guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Take a cheap DAC. Swap out it's crappy power supply with a nice linear one and tell me if you can't hear a difference. If that DAC has a socketed op amp for its output stage, swap out the op amp for  a nice discreet one and tell me if you can't hear a difference again.

 

Is there a lot of snake oil in high-end audio? Of course. But to say that nothing in a DAC matters except the chip is just completely untrue.

There is a certain contingent here (and elsewhere) that will not believe anything I am about to write and that is OK, you can listen to whatever you want.  I have been upgrading DAC’s for a long time. The step up from MSB + "stuff" to PS Audio DirectStream was significant in musicality, accuracy, air, speed, soundstage, vocal timbre, the things you buy good systems to experience. But the step up to a Linn Klimax DSM/3 was even more significant, in a league of its own kind of territory. 

You are not going to hear a lot of this unless your system is up to the task. When I put the Linn in my system, I had an Audio Research Ref 75 SE driving well sorted Thiel speakers in a properly prepared room and good cables (Audience AU75 SE mostly).  The Linn is direct in to the amp. With this setup, it was quite easy to evaluate the last two steps in the DAC upgrade. 

It’s hard to describe what a "reference" sound system sounds like until you hear one. This almost never happens in a dealer showroom, they are set up "good" (sometimes) but not the way in which you can tune your own room.  

What do you have to spend to get an analog rig that rivals the Linn Klimax DSM (or similar/better)? I have no idea. My Thorens / Hana set up is nowhere close (PS Audio phono preamp). But I bet Linn can sell you a Sondek setup that will come close (as can other top end manufacturers), but it will be very, very, very spendy. These days I only spin vinyl when I have it and it isn’t available on Qobuz.