I sold and tested many different brands in cables in over 20 years of time. When you compare and test cables you often can hear that a manufacturer puts the focus on a certain frequency range.
This makes people often think for example that the low frequencies increased in power and control. But they forget that these choices often create other limitations. In other aspects of sound.
I will not use names anymore. Often 'emphasis' cables are not able to create a huge level in 3D. And they often can also not reveal diversity in height like brands who are what we call; more linear. This means that all frequencies are being equally carried out. |
We are now discussing to do presentations with Conservatory students. Manufacturers with who we do business are interested in it. This is the best and only way to show and teach people how voices and instruments sound and how big they are in space.
The idea is to start with a voice or a person who plays an instrument. After this, we want to let people hear how a Tru-Fi system plays the same kind instrument.
In the end, emotion is the only key to success in audio. This is why we want to show people how human emotion works regarding music. So it makes sense to use real voices and instruments for that. |
In the end, emotion is the only key to success in audio. Amen. Only a tiny fraction of systems emote. Sadly, far too many rumble, rattle, fart, bloat, tizz and screech preventing any connection with the music. |
Well this didn’t age well ... clearthink
1,003 posts01-19-2017
3:12pm
Again,with the kind permission of Bo, the group and the moderators kindly please allow me to expand a bit on TruFi, what it means for the world of music reproduction systems and how it will change the industry.
Kindly please remember that I am not not a spokesman for TruFi. I am a client of Bo’s and it has been proven to me and it has been proven to everyone that the world of music reproduction systems is shifting from one of widdley-tiddley voodoo to TruFi, which is recognized by all who hear it.
Bo does shootouts. Using properties identified under TruFi and measurement techniques, Bo can demonstrate a diversity in sound that no one else can deliver. He can do this because he alone has developed TruFi, the only means so far developed to allow music reproduction systems to show the true diversity of sound that only TruFi can deliver, so far.
Until now music reproduction systems have been built using information from paid for advertising and "reviews" and trial and error approach. This is why all music reproduction systems other than TruFi are 1D or 2D while TruFi systems are 3D. This has been proven many many times, so there’s no need to debate that here.
As I said earlier but some seem to have not understood Bo is an innovator, trailblazer, and a visionary. As such of course he is a threat to the current establishment of hi-fi and music reproduction systems. These people need to defend their businesses and hi-fi religion so they do that here! Some have accused Bo of using this group for advertising but the opposite is the truth. It is Bo’s attackers who use this group to promote their own self interests above those of the true lover of music, which is all about emotion, and the music reproduction systems we use to reproduce it. |
I'm not a fan of the cryo sound. Too many things come up missing in the info for me. Michael |
I find cryo generally provides more information, not less. Cryo improves the performance of all materials. There is no reason I can think of why cryo would degrade the sound of anything, with certain caveats. There is a waiting period for cryo, maybe several days, to let the CDs or LPs or tubes or whatever recover from thermal shock of cryo. During that time the sound can be quite bad sometimes. Also, avoid cryo that involves immersion in liquid nitrogen.
You can get quite good results using the home freezer, and you don’t have to wait a week or two to get your stuff back from the cryo lab.
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Hi Geoff Did you ever setup a stereo in your home or are you still giving results based on your Sony Walkman? The last several times you and I have been giving thoughts on the same threads you didn't have an in-room stereo. Let me know if you ever do. Michael |
Hi, Michael, I’m giving you the benefit of twenty years of cryo experience. I was one of the early pioneers. Are you giving me a little jab 🥊 for my Ultra low mass portable system? Isn’t that a conflict of interest? 😀 Is my system even lower mass than the Michael Green standard? Total SONY Walkman/ Sony headphone system mass 1.5 lbs. Jealous?
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Bummer, well let me know if you ever get a stereo again. Michael |
I didn’t know you were the jealous type. Live and learn. 🤗
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Cryogenic materials treatment involves little shock. You don't dump it in liquid. It is a vapour exposure.
It is not going to have a "sound". Copper conductivity is barely impacted and even if you caused some damage to the dielectrics, it would make 0 difference at audio frequencies. I would bet more cable to cable variation than cable to cryoed same cable change. |
If cryo treatment always improve the sound why don’t ALL high end manufacturers cryo their cables by default? Treating cables in bulk, cryo treatment would probably only add $10-20 per cable. There would be plenty of profit left with their $500-1000+ wire. Why are they selling uber-expensive cables that are not the best they can make and could be improved for $20?
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Most of them do cryo their cables. Shhhh, don’t tell anybody. The rest must not have gotten the memo. Who knows?
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audiozenology
Cryogenic materials treatment involves little shock. You don’t dump it in liquid. It is a vapour exposure. It is not going to have a "sound". Copper conductivity is barely impacted and even if you caused some damage to the dielectrics, it would make 0 difference at audio frequencies. I would bet more cable to cable variation than cable to cryoed same cable change. >>>>>You say Hello, I say Goodbye! Take copious notes. |
+1 delkal,
Many do. It's an easy path to a higher charge and as illustrated, with obvious marks why not? I believe some specifically do not as they recognize materials in the construction may not be designed for those temps.
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