Counterfeit Chinese Cables


I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

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@czarivey 

"Most American engineering schools have TRAINING material, not LEARNING."

Oh, so American engineering schools are no good, right? More unsupportable nonsense. Anyway, weren't we talking about Africa?

We are talking about SIZE of the learning material given per discussed nation. I think language pro should know how to grab the main idea of discussion right?

That size does matter and contributes to the quality of an engineer or any professional.

In India or China it’s at least twice the size of USA which dictates to study it at least twice as hard if not harder. Nearly same applies to Japan

Speaking about Africa and size of the learning material nearly approaching to zero, didn’t you get what I mean???

 

Sure we do. It's just a-bit of step away into superiority of Chinese education system over American or Western in general that makes smart engineers to earn some extra money by selling counterfeits. 

I do see NOTHING wrong with that. Superior knowledge should prevail and win over fools.

There is no doubts that North American education is a catastroph...

I am 72 years of age...

When young at 13 years of age we studied history, litterature and languages...

I learn english,french,greek and latin...Basic phonetic and linguistic...

And i learn basic history related to these four cultures and general civilization history...

At fourteen we had dissertation of minimum 5 pages to make each week about the difference of architectural style and painting and music and in litterature from medieval times to the modern era , one great writers after the others in 6 big manuals... In each text of these books we were in the obligation to answer each question of each texts by writing and debating it orally once a week in opposite side with arguments then learning applied logic and rhetoric ...We learn geography,chemistry basic, biology and dissection , and physics...

I had zero in mathematics and english at this age 😊 because i was not interested , but when it interested me at 19 years old i learned it in english books by myself ..... Number theory and advance set theory ...Now i can explain to you Godel theorem meaning or the difference between set theory and category theory or topos theory ... .I studied linguistic as a hobby because of my college years ...

Today college education is a complete lost of time ... People learn to use a phone which is now the computer for the mass ...

Modern education was settled by corporate lobbies interests one century ago because the average citizen was determined to be no more than a specialized slave worker not an enlightened citizen ... Then it was not necessary to teach synthesis in an interdisciplinary perspective and intuition and freedom at all ... I will stop here ...

 

Now instead of being an old grumpy man remembering his past  i will be optimist :

Young people today had all the world  at the finger tips... They can learn by themselves how to free themselves even from the criminal corporations ...

Then even if my education was more litterate , i was not  necessarily freer from other conditioning...

Each times has its own challenge ...

But it is clear that today we must give an education that will favor the grounding of man in nature and freedom ...

Transhumanists  sect  is very powerful and dangerous ...

 

Sure we do. It’s just a-bit of step away into superiority of Chinese education system over American or Western in general that makes smart engineers to earn some extra money by selling counterfeits.