Counterfeit Chinese Cables


I thought that I would write this for those who are curious about one of the many counterfeit Chinese interconnect cables that are available these days. I know that there have been threads about the subject before, and I was always curious because they seem to be such a bargain. I don't really recall much about what any members actually said about the performance of these counterfeit cables, and I didn't look back and do any research, but a couple of months ago there was a thread that came around to discussing the quality of Chinese made components, and oldhvymec said something that made sense to me.

He said that people that say that what they are making is junk should consider that much of what is in our gear, and a lot of our American brands are actually manufactured there. I decided shortly after that that I would take the chance on a set of interconnects, because I suspected that the interconnects going from my pre to my amp were the weak link and needed upgrading. The interconnects going from my DAC to my pre were Kimber Select which are very good, but the other set were LAT International (now defunct) which had cost $500.00 when new, but I had reason to believe they were lacking because I have one of their digital cables that turned out to be very poor sounding in comparison to others I own.

I decided on a one meter pair of counterfeit Nordost Odin interconnects for a total of $104.00 from Aliexpress. I received them a couple of weeks later. They appeared to be well made, and the locking fake WBT rca's were very impressive and are very tight. 

First impressions after installing them were light, thin sound, lacking bass. Each couple of days brought improvements, but from the beginning I noticed that they were quieter. Now, weeks later, I can say that they are drastically better that the LAT's in every way. Detail and ambience are much better, but it's the focus and separation of instruments that is most noticeable. 

I have no way of knowing if they are really a copy of the Nordost design, but I am impressed enough that I am going to try a counterfeit Nordost digital cable.

Obviously, this isn't a comparison that is useful to most, because there probably isn't anyone here using the LAT's, and everything is system dependent. I just wanted to relay my positive experience. 

Nordost ODIN&2 RCA Fever Audio Signal Cable Double Lotus Sterling Silver Audio Cord Video CD Amplifier Tube Cable High Quality| | - AliExpress

roxy54

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To get an idea behind Chinese knock-offs from original cable product, one must understand at least partially Asian mentality that is still shared in depth between nearly ALL Asian nations like China, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam etc... 

For their level of education (at least a lot more intense and deep than Western education), they certainly figured out that by "just listening" you won't be able to tell any differences between original one and knock-off that is 20x cheaper. To get even deeper idea, they do study 20 times HARDER for their academics so they can mock every Western ingenuine approach for profit. 

Nearly same applies to anyone who wants to purchase and terminate them for reselling. 

Unfortunately @juanmanuelfangioii your situation of losing millions because of that is self-evidently explainable. Technically everyone wants to live for the costs of the others, but those who do that for a lot less do take the upper hand and no matter how HARD you will try to go after those that make you lose money, I guarantee you won't find any success there... In any business, if you cannot rise bridge, you have to lower the river.

@roxy54 , maan you are DEFINITELY #1 watcher for the correct spelling and grammer. A true and dedicated language pro or even Nazi...

I myte consider doin' wrong spelling on perpuz so to be entertained by your ansorz :-)

Sorry for exposed roxy-pot-roast recipe. 

@mahgister ,

You've REALLY forgotten about Africa. Nearly every third man there is engineer from birth.

 

Well, @roxy54 

It all depends on quality of engineers.

The volume of the LEARNING material in Chinese or Indian schools is a LOT bigger than such in Western schools and it's really not about quantity at all.

Most American engineering schools have TRAINING material, not LEARNING.

Same applies to medical schools unfortunately.

 

We are talking about SIZE of the learning material given per discussed nation. I think language pro should know how to grab the main idea of discussion right?

That size does matter and contributes to the quality of an engineer or any professional.

In India or China it’s at least twice the size of USA which dictates to study it at least twice as hard if not harder. Nearly same applies to Japan

Speaking about Africa and size of the learning material nearly approaching to zero, didn’t you get what I mean???

 

Sure we do. It's just a-bit of step away into superiority of Chinese education system over American or Western in general that makes smart engineers to earn some extra money by selling counterfeits. 

I do see NOTHING wrong with that. Superior knowledge should prevail and win over fools.

Modern education was settled by corporate lobbies interests one century ago because the average citizen was determined to be no more than a specialized slave worker not an enlightened citizen ... Then it was not necessary to teach synthesis in an interdisciplinary perspective and intuition and freedom at all ... I will stop here ...

...At 14 years of age(8th grade), I've started basic calculus as part of my general education in Soviet Union. 

At 21 years of age, I moved to USA and noted that 8th-graders are just learning arithmetic operations over fractions that I've learned in the 2nd grade. At 18 years of age, I thought and still think that I would never be able to bear the load Chinese students bear when I visited Shanghai -- the City of Lights. Their learning material especially on maths and physics a LOT bigger than in SU. 

Those US citizens that never seen anything outside, should start thinking

@roxy54 You are, sir confirming and proving my points like no one else I’ve ever socialized with, but I don’t blame you -- It’s corporations that made your education so incomplete and unestablished.

Those who think that they can get an idea about the world from the news at their finger tips are extremely delusional exactly just like you roxy.

After all, it's never late to learn especially if you've done it sometime before at least once.