At this price it should be the best!! |
It´s done! Everything is fine. The Copperhead is a delicate but excellent tonearm. I wouldn`t like to change the cartridge too many times in the Copperhead.
From my experience the weight scales in the manual are not exact.
I have put some pics under my system |
Hi Eckart,
Thanks for the pics...it helps me follow the progress!
-Sam |
Kostas, my decision making started in 2006 at the High End show in Munich. It was more a long time process than a sudden impulse. Nevertheless the thread and the good advices helped me to settle my decision in the end.
I cannot give a judgement right now, I need some time of listening but Mike is on the right track. We have to compare it with a Caliburn some day - maybe in the same system...
I am slowly proceeding. The neodymium tabletts which keep the floating armboard in position is a wonderful invention, especially in the completion of Continuum. I dismounted everything and assembled it again. The difference on impact it has on the sound I will figure out when everything is in place - and then maybe changing the distance between the tabletts from underneath the chassis.
At the moment I have a more stiffer calibration by reducing the distance to the near minimum.
http://picasaweb.google.de/caochan1/Criterion |
Kostas,
your comment is a reasonable one; but only if one assumes that Eckart liked the Caliburn lots more than he liked the Criterion.
again we come back to the cost/benefit-value issue.
i've heard the Caliburn and the Criterion 4 times each in different systems. i've spent more total time with the Criterion. but i've never heard them side by side. other than having them both in your own system for an extended comparison, the next best thing would be what Eckart apparently did do, compare them side by side in Oz.
he has not written any detail about his final decision making experience (at least that i have seen). so we may wonder what the tipping point(s) actually ended up being.
my guess is that the Criterion came 'close enough' at approx half the price. if he only liked the Caliburn a little more that would be a decision he is likely very happy about.
there is nothing to prevent him from tradeing up later. at least he knows the difference between them to his ears.
no regrets needed.
i say congrats and let the music flow.... |
Dear Thuchan,
I have followed this thread over the last few days and I would like to contribute, if I may, a different view point.
Unless there is more to it than what was shared in this thread, your purchase has all the hallmarks of an impulsive purchase.
None of my impulsive buys over the years led to long-term enjoyment *especially* when I compromised the *dream*.
If you had set your eyes on the Caliburn, the Criterion will not do in the longer run.
I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that you will keep enjoying the Criterion for the years to come. With apologies to everyone if my comment is out of line, but it honestly documents my 25-year long analogue journey.
Kostas |
Norahs a sloppy eater, she eats with her mouth open, I said never again!
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Mr D ,,,,dinner with Norah Joans and reaching wide spread agreement with most audiophiles,agree tis a highly emotional driven hobby for some, to much maybe
Eckart, we dont need you getting hurt at this stage you have my attention, have fun! |
The Criterion manual is one of the best of its kind like the Copperhead manual, the arm I will mount on the Criterion. Redscouser, it seems you have experience with that table. Thanks for the advice. You mean using the four screws and moving the board a little I guess. Does it work like a flywheel? It should have some impact on the platter. Dietrich, you are right, this is a somehow dangerous job - keeping the hands not in the right position when lowering the heavy platter - uuh. As I am sitting in a train right now there is no risk at the moment... |
Dbcooper, ****dinner with Norah Jones****** - I guess this is one of the very few points were you can reach wide spread agreement with most audiophiles......
Eckart - take it slow and easy.
Weekend is ahead.
Cheers,
D. |
Wow, Eckart!!! Are you going to get some help setting-up the table? Are those Classe Omegas, too??! I'll be in Europe this summer :-)!!
Happy New Year - it is!
Best,
Sam |
,,,,,So what do I win for guessing it was the criterion TT?,,,,,,,,
Dinner with Norah Joans |
Thuchan,
The main TT chassis is straight forward in setting up, but you may need to fiddle around with the magnet adjusters for the arm board underneath the main chassis this will change the sound slightly. That arm will you be using.
So what do I win for guessing it was the criterion TT? |
Indeed, ..... make sure you start with Norah Jones' "Come away with me".......
Just in case Peter is right.
Cheers,
D. |
Thanks David, Thanks Peter,
at the moment the Copulare stand arrived. this is a very special Grand Porto for a very special table...and very heavy too
http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/MtqGmLiA-4finbpSN2dxKg?feat=directlink
it might take some time to puzzle everything together... but this will be fun |
Congrats!!!
Now don't get too smitten with it. If upon placing the needle in the groove for the first time and you say that the performer materialized before your very eyes... we may just have to believe you. Just make sure she's beautiful!
My best!
Peter |
Congratulations Eckart, there was little dought what was packed away in this wooden crate.
I just opened a beer, Cheers! and happy listening
David |
unpacking finished!
looks like a turntable!?
http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/ZLgkIbwN-9oQ_lPeao5UGA?feat=directlink
now I go for penfolds grange...
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Thuchan
That was quite a whirl wind tour you went on these last few days.Four continents under your belt and returning with only a wooden crate that is now acclimatising in your home.
With regards to this world class wine I can only thank my loving wife that has civilized me to a degree over the years.
Cheers
David |
Is this about a turntable or What?? |
David, hope I find some bottles in the crate. I guess your wine cellar is filled with those... |
my journey comes to an end mirroring the exact time-schedule of the new machine having arrived at my home. It may look cloak and dagger but there is a final result - hope it convinces you.
I learned from friends that you should not open a parcel containing a musical instrument before the room temperature has reached the instruments - so I still have to be patient for a little while, just a little... |
Maybe a few Penfolds Grange?
David |
Looking at the crate, me thinking its a criterion table? |
This is all very cloak and dagger Thuchan.
Did you buy a new Caliburn? Used Caliburn?
Peter |
Dbcooper, in the outback you are not allowed to talk about value you are carrying behind you. Otherwise the result will be a very final one. Never tell anyone with how many coins you arrived.
But you are right. I had some travel costs. So we had a long night drinking German and Australian Beer and finally the seller agreed paying the bill... |
it is a long journey from the other side of the world back to snowy Bavaria. Patience, Patience my dear friends. You already provided me with so many helpful advises and of course moral backing (!!!) on this journey... Thanks
when you open the small box you will see this on top...
http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/5QkGKS1D2VjQSNssgvoy3A?feat=directlink |
Django pulling the coffin behind himself............. is there a Kelly-machine gun inside ? Come on Thuchan - open Pandora's box and reveal the Nemesis! |
,,,,I remember Clint Eastwood,,,,
Thuchan did you rough anyone up for a better price? |
passed customs, on my way home, still very healthy and looking forward to unpacking after having made all clearance procedures |
Pretty good one, Syntax :-) |
its so heavy - puuh! why I am doing this? I remember Clint Eastwood carrying a large wooden coffin behind him. Maybe I am looking like him now - in the outback... |
Dear Syntax, ..... and how right you were..... anyway, - looking forward to see a picture with the open coffin.. |
At this price it should be the great. |
Greetings from the sick-bed... Mate, I told you, listening to "Components-of-the Year" can create serious health problems... |
Dear Eckart,...... that wooden crate looks like a coffin. Did you had to use heavy and persuading arguments to convince the former owner to part with what may be your new toy ?
Greetings from the sick-bed,
D. |
Eckart, Hmmm.....Whatever is inside the crate...Congrats! If it is what I think it is, we'll all celebrate with you. Don't keep us waiting.
TX1000 John |
Little wooden crate...Little Wooden Crate! :-)
-Sam |
Congratulations, Thuchan, assuming that the crate contains what we all think it contains. I think the outcome was inevitable from the start. You just wanted some moral support. I hope you will keep this thread alive by relating to us your judgement of the Caliburn once it is up and running in your own system and in comparison to the fine products you already own. |
01-17-10: Thuchan writes: I only needed one more night and I don`t know what really drove me today`s morning ... and possibly the beautiful, but hot, summer weather went to your head. Congratulations. Regards, |
That looks like some nice luggage you are bringing back home with you. It makes Samsonite look cheap. |
Rcprince, yes I do think it costs too much! But what should you do?
Mikelavinge, you`re right -maybe it is a matter of getting to know if a Continuum is playing such wonderful in one`s own system. You already made this experience. I envy you.
As some good friends of me say I am a friend of quick decision I only needed one more night and I don`t know what really drove me today`s morning, is it the good seafood & the excellent wine in Melbourne or the wonderful relaxed people overhere? - in Germany there should be lots of snow I heard.
Luckily I rented a station wagon and had some room left, so I put this little wooden crate behind me and I`m now now heading back to Sydney - maybe getting a flight back home.
http://picasaweb.google.de/lh/photo/UHMRwc5EVezTYm2rNFIRuw?feat=directlink |
So I guess one "reason not to go for a Caliburn", as you originally asked, is that it costs so much? i think a better way to look at it is that the cost/benefit ratio is not sufficient to close the deal. not a matter of means but of value. he is already drinking from the extreme tt performance well with his current rigs. how much better for how much more money? evidently not enough....yet. so then it comes to the issue of 'i gotta have it anyway'. i've had opportunities to own a Caliburn for less than i'd been offered for my Rockport (although in the interests of full disclosure, not recently). for many different reasons i never went that way. not that i might not be equally or more satisfied with the Caliburn. i just like the Rockport and did not want it to go. |
So I guess one "reason not to go for a Caliburn", as you originally asked, is that it costs so much? |
Having arrived in Melbourne I had the opportunity to audition this TT. All I have to say is: I am very much impressed - but also by the price. If I would get this piece for half the price "deal done". Maybe I have to stay some more days... |
OK.
I'm looking forward to seeing you .
Cheers
Peter |
Thanks Halcro, David and Ldvalve. I had a very nice exchange with Henry in Sydney and I am now heading to Melbourne.
I will take a car. I made this trip some 25 years ago, it took me 2 weeks ending up at Pinguin island and I do remember very well I burned my head completely. This will not happen again. And I will be faster this time.
But maybe something else will start arousing heat in me... I will report. Ldalve I give you a call |
Hi Thuchan.
phone me if you need any help getting around audiophiles in melbourne.
0410326407
Cheers and have a good trip . |
Mr.Sintax that is so true :)
The topic here is of interest of a interesting turntable concept. All though my memory of listening to this table a few years ago was not so memorable. By the sounds of things they got the gremlins out of it or just bad timing do to a bad set up I never did any follow up.
Thuchan what a set of beautiful turntables you have always loved those Micros and boy have the used Micro got hot these last few years. Just rmember if you do need to make room for a Caliburn I do have room for one more table at my place.
Lastly hopefully the weather DownUnder will be slightly warmer then in this hemisphere.
Looking forward to your report on the Continuum Caliburn
David |
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