Conrad Johnson Premier 12, how powerful?

Very interesting. Thanks Chuck.

Lp140 (comprised of two lps70's) is a single chassis mon-bloc and does have the teflon caps. The premier 140 on the other hand is a single chassis stereo unit and does not contain the teflon caps.

Chuck

To clarify, do you mean the LP140 has the Teflon caps but the 140 does not?

Speed is relative and mostly a function of speaker/amp synergy. Coincidentally, I just got off the phone with Ed from cj and one of the subjects we touched upon was the speed improvement realized by using Teflon capacitors. So, given that you thought MV60SE was fast enough, I'm sure you will find the same with the Premier 140; but if ultimate speed is of concern, audition the cj LP140 with the Teflon caps.

Hmmm... Now I'm discouraged to hear that the 12 is not quick. My impression from the reviews was the opposite, that they are quick, and quicker than previous CJ gear. I've only heard the MV60SE from CJ, and loved the quickness and overall presentation, but thought I could do better for the money.

My memory of the CJ Premier 12's is that they had plenty of of guts but were not the quickest amp. They are a more traditional tubey sound compared to the latest offerings from CJ, or most other manufacturers of tube amps. Beautiful look and sound, and they seem to hold their value. Probably a classic. I'd recommend owning them, at least for a while to get to know them.
Art

Have you purchased the 12's? If not, shop for 8s' or 8a's. These 275 watt top of the line amps can often be had for $4000.00 to $5000.00 here on audiogon (original $ was about $18000.00). For a few more dollars you'd be getting alot more amp.

The Opera Callas are 8 ohm. I'm afraid I don't know about the impedance curve. My room is fairly small and I listen mostly at low volumes, but I've found that low volume listening is where you appreciate power the most. So far with these speakers I've auditioned the Mcintosh 2275, which is rated 75 wpc, and found it anemic. Then I tried the ARC 55 wpc integrated, and that had very good power with these speakers. Go figure. With the CJ, 140 wpc of tube power seems enormous, so I'm confused as to why several sources warn about matching this amp with inefficient speakers.

But thanks for your responses. I'm fairly convinced that these would be fine with my speakers.

I'm seconding Tantra's post. The 87db sensitivity will not present a problem. I'm using the cj Premier 11a (70 watts) with 91db speakers. However, neither amp is the ideal choice for a speaker with a challenging impedance curve.

Unless you are planning to use the speakers in an auditorium, the CJ Premier 12s have plenty of power for that speaker.

In general I would say they would have plenty of power but of course volume level, type of music and room size and accoustics all enter into the equation.

Chuck

I am driving Gallo Ref3 speakers (88dB sensitivity) with a pair of C-J Premier 12 monoblocks. They provide PLENTY of power, even for loud rock music. I am not familiar with the Opera Callas monitors. But there is more to efficiency than the sensitivity rating of the speakers. If your speakers present a difficult impedance load, a tube amp may have trouble providing adequate current. The C-J 12's are powerful and beautiful-sounding amps. But with your emphasis on power, I suspect you'll be happier with a high-current solid-state or class D amp.