Coda #8, Pass XA25, or Schiit Tyr to replace PS Audio M700


I recently upgraded my power amp from a Nakamichi PA7Aii to PS Audio M700 monoblocks.  I honestly expected to flip the M700 pair quickly because I did not think they would be better than the PA7Aii.  The M700s actually provide a wider and more detailed soundstage.  I sold the Nak.

I listen (often passively) for several hours each day.  I began to identify a 'shrill' on the high end.  Since I had upgraded my DAC (DirectStream Mk1) I initially thought that could be it.  I rotated three DACs through the system (DS, N130, and Eversolo DMP-A6).  All of them had the shrill.  I then put in an old NAD 7600 and the shrill went away along with a lot of the detail.  Put the M700 back in and used the EQ from the DMP-A6 streamer to limit extreme high end.  Ended up with a -1 Q starting at 19,500 Hz that solved the shrill, but also muddied the high end detail.  I don't trust the EQ a lot and figure more is being impacted than the targeted range.

This led me to consider upgrading the M700 pair.  I have a  pair of Acoustat 1+1 speakers with low sensitivity efficiency (81 to 86 depending on who the source is) with a pair of Rythmik F12SE subs and an active crossover at 100 Hz controlled by the SPL Crossover.  My budget is around $6K.

Looked at the Pass XA25.  Not certain there is enough power there although a Pass representative encouraged my to try it.  I was hoping to get two used and use them as mono blocks.  

The Schiit Tyr has been on my short list for awhile (prior to buying the M700).  The Schiit AI tool actually stated the Tyr was not a good match and suggested other Schiit amps.  This seemed strange to me.  I sent an email to Schiit seeking clarification, but have not heard back.  I may go to there store in LA this week to talk to someone live.  

The Coda #8 came up as an option as I was exploring.  I looked at other Coda used products, but #8 seems to match up best. (Well, the #16 matched up best, but was more than double my budget).  I will go take a look at it later this week.  Not a mono block but could work.

I am essentially seeking the last 1-2% of the detail the Acoustats can provide.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

One final note.  I am not interested in tube power amps.  I don't like the fussiness of tubes and the Acoustats seem to pick up the hum from tubes. I know it shouldn't happen with their sensitivity, but I notice it.  It could be my prejudice, but please no tube suggestions.

thriftyaudio

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I have owned the CODA #8 and now the #16. I love the #16. I own a Sanders Magtech now for my Magnepan LRS+. I am not sure if it is because of the synergy with the LRS+, but I like the Magtech more than the CODA #8. I have not heard the #8 with the LRS+. I like the CODA #16 even more than the Magtech with the LRS+. However, the #16 is 2x more expensive, but not 2x better. The #8 is not bad but I did not love it as much as the Magtech or #16.

Another amp I liked more than the latest #8 v1 is the KRELL DUO 175XD. I had both of them in the house for a while and I would rotate them between my Thiel CS3.7 speaker and my RAAL SR1a headphones (the phones actually drew more current). After a while I gravitated more towards the Duo 175XD. The KRELL is a bit smoother than the #8.

The CODA #16 is a different beast and I love that amp a lot. I saw a post on A’gon that KRELL is releasing some new amps in June 2024 that are the next iteration of what I owned. Those could be great and maybe worth the wait.

BTW - CODA built the Magtech amps back in the day

@thriftyaudio I also use a Benchmark LA4 (changed to the HPA4 last week). I use it with the CODA #16 and really love the 2 together. 

Interesting comment you made about the Magtech. I am finding it superb on the LRS+. However, not as superb on my Yamaha NS5000. The CODA #16 is great on both. If you can swing it the #16 is great and you will not be thinking of another amp to upgrade to in the future. 

BTW - do not put a WANTED ad for a #16. A lot of swindlers out there. 

The Aegir is a good amp and one I use for my RAAL SR1a headphones (with the new interface box). There is a slightly mechanical hum to it, but it is faint, and it does not come through the music.

The latest Aegir is supposed to have fixed that hum issue.

BTW - there was someone in the Bay Area trying to sell an KRELL Duo 175XD for a song, he had no box. I was thinking about driving up there to pick it up. I think that is a great amp and owned it before. It is in the CODA #8 price range MSRP.

Interesting statement on the KRELL. I no longer have the 2 units I owned so I cannot offer any long tern ownership history.

I am not sure if CODA hold value as a PASS, but I would take a CODA over a PASS for my preferences. CODA also seems rock solid.