Cleveland, OH


Anyone in the NE Ohio area that are still stalwart 2 channelers?
How about those of you who got rid of their stereo gear to go HT
only to regret it. Are you out there? COMMENTS
mosfetti
Hello,

I live in Youngstown, Ohio and have been into audio for about 10 years now (time flies). I would also be interesting in joining an 'asylum'.

Marty
Well, it seems there are a number of us willing to form a Cleveland area audiophile/2 channel club. I'd be happy to help organize this. Note I said help organize. I guess this forum will be a good place to start. Keep posting or send emails, and maybe we can get something going.
I don't know about Cleveland 2ch club. Will happily participate. I have Cello Elves, currently working on resuscitation of McIntosh MC2205 have also mac preamps Garrard table and as I am damn DIYer, rebuiling Torrens 160 turntable my increadible way. I do experiment. Maybe too much....
Hello Cleveland/Akron audiophiles! Golden Gramophone, in Fairlawn, is AWESOME. http://www.goldengramophone.com/
I highly recommend this shop. Very friendly sales guys who are actually into 2 channel. I've sat for hours in there listening to Von Schweikert VR4 Jr.'s on Audio Research amps, with no intention of buying, they know I couldn't afford it.

Anyhow, is there a Cleveland area audiophile/2 channel club? I'd be willing to join, and even help organize it.

I live in Akron and have a modest 2 channel system consisting of Polk Audio speakers, McCormack pre, and Rotel power amp.
Hi,
Nothing active yet but intrest is always great, I live south of Youngstown....write back if you want to talk.
Chad
I don't know what I want. I a poor college grad that is hoping to go to Grad school in the fall.
I want my stuff to sound good, but fill both audio and video requirements.
I never had anything other than Onkyo receivers and the like. I need help.
Need quality used pieces that cost little $$$.
I feel that I have made a good start considering what I once had, but am eager to "feel the music". and relax.
Akron area. Shahinian speakers, Blue Circle NSCS integrated and AH! CD player.
The Shahinian's & Blue Circle replaced my Spendor 1/2's (most excellent speakers btw), Audio Research LS15 & Musical Fidelity A308cr amplifier.
The Audio stores in Akron are WORSE than those in Youngstown. And Canton is worse than Akron.
I've figured it out recently. They are willing to talk to you only if you order HT instalation. That is where their income coming from. Furthermore, they don't care that much about equipment cost and quality. Dealers are looking for expensive installations - in wall speakers, all-house wiring. I was still searching for Tara Labs wire. Looked for good one ($30-$40 per ft), but after 2 weeks I still can not get price through email. So just because I needed a pair of 20 ft speaker wire they do not think I'm important prospective customer. ...It is a shame. No competitors and associates' ignorance is sky rocketing. But enough complaints. That is exactly a very good reason why we should exchange opinions and listening experiences about equipment, so we can bypass dealers and find out ourselves what configurations are making good sound. All we here, by count, most likely have better selection than all Cleveland stores together and individual knowledge is priceless. We might also start some sort of a club. I don't mind a cup of coffee and conversation on one of the subjects that make my life different and happy. (Thanks for the patience while reading my response - I am not an American and my language needs improvement, I know...)
Best local dealer here in NE Ohio has been Don Better of Don Better Audio. he sells the weird stuff I'm into (SET and single driver speakers) as well as some really pricey SS stuff.
Vik
I grew up in NE Ohio, and remember a few years back I think there was a store named Hoffman's ??? However, the last time I was in there if memory serves correct they had Martin Logan SL3's running through Adcom amps and the sound was as good as nails on a chalkboard. Ridiculously poor! Especially considering I owned the SL3's at that time in Columbus, OH and had some sweet music coming from them via VTL Ultimate preamp with the Sonic Frontiers SFS-80 amp... after that experience I can see why I think I heard they are no longer in business... how can anyone expect to sell something on the sound if it sounds poor in the showroom?

Have been removed from central and NE Ohio for a few years now, so I am uncertain as to what is worth while. Progressive Audio in Columbus would be my best recommendation as of a few years ago...
I am from Cleve but now live south of Youngstown, I agree about Audiovisions...bought some Rotel and B&W equipment, had a service issue and was talked too like a 2 year old, I had to call Rotel direct to get a person who actually knew what he was talking about, and was smart enought to listen..anyway thats my Audio-Visions experience.
Well, You will find some rude associates in Strongsville Audivisions, and also some Logans, B&W and Tara Labs products, Dynaudio is represented only by autoproducts on Miles Rd. That is pretty much it! I've had to travel Toledo, Washington, Richmond to audition. It is especially sorry as we are the home of the Cleveland Orchestra (they crave now for money too, selling tickets for 30% of the cost). The world has changed, but!!!! It is also good side to it. Because only the true music lovers - purists in a good sense, will stay. I'm "neverendingly" putting my system together and will be glad to talk about the music and equipment. Willoughby, OH
im in west side of cleveland. cant' believe how bad cleveland is when it comes to audio. audiocraft yeah theres a store thats withit. that place sucks. i can't believe that is the best store in cleveland. whats the problem here. why arn't there more choices. i know we have Play It again Sams . which he is good but we need to have more when it comes to brand new stuff. stuff that is in stock ready to go and hear. i have yet to be able to go anywhere in cleveland to hear what a 300b amp sounds like. thats how bad it is.
sorry for going off but something needs to be done.
Hi......Glad to hear from you if you would like to give me a call.....330-783-3072...my name is Tim..thank you.
Count me in. I'll be moving from Cleveland to Parma in two weeks. I'll like to get together and hear some different setups. I'm especially interested in high-sensitivity/high-efficiency set-ups, low power, single driver, horns, etc. I'm a panel-head and would like to hear something different! Though I would really like to hear any setup. I'd like to get some ideas on a possible new direction in which to takemy system. Shoot me an email through the audiogon system. Thanks.

Aaron
Parma, OH
Cuyahoga County Audiophiles, Gathering two channel audiophiles together to compare and contrast systems and opinions toward advancing audio reproduction.Lets all get together and hear what each other is pursueing,and to what ends.Outside of Cuyahoga-no discrimination:all 2 channel persons welcome! Tom
I live in the Cleveland area. I use strictly 2 channels for music listening. When I go to a concert I feel that that is the way I hear the sound. The orchestra or band is in front of me. The sounds from the side and rear are echoes, and people coughing. I don't feel I'm missing anything in 2 channels.
I have a cool setup on my home theater system, though. I wasn't going to get a surround system originally. I have a wonderful Sansui G8000 receiver I use on that system. 120W per channel, separate power supplies for each channel all the way back to separate windings on the transformer for each channel. On this system I also have a Luxman PD-375 TT, a Sony DTC1000ES DAT, a TEAC 6010GSL, an Onkyo Integra DX708 CD player, and a Denon DRM-710 cassette deck. Mostly I use this system for listening to music. Last summer at a garage sale I found a Sony ES surround amp. This is a really nice unit that has an amp for the surround and center channels and line level outputs for the fronts with steering logic for all 5 channels. It has stereo rear channels, not mono like on most Mid-Fi junk. The Sansui has a 4 channel adapter bus on it, so I have the surround connected there. Now, when I watch a movie or Star Trek Enterprise, I push the 4 channel adapter switch and turn on the surround decoder. I have very convincing 4 channel surround (I don't bother with the center channel) for movies, and I switch it out for listening to music.

Warren
Geneva Oh. Addicted to Two Channel. Are there any good shops around anymore? They all seem to close.
I'm in Akron and love vinyl. I just got a new Music Hall MMF-9, my preamp tweaked and a new pair of JM labs Electra 926's.Life is good.
Hi Tom youngstown area here,only two audio stores here and they both STINK. I love two channel only way to go. any interested audio people in my area please contact
Bozo I'm with you. Movies are just fine through my stereo set up.
I'm not into those types of movies that have jets, choppers etc. any-
way. I once saw a movie at a theater and there was a guy standing
on a beach gazing out at the ocean and the "really cool" effects
had the water sounds behind you. When's the last time you stood
in front of a body of water and the sounds of the waves were behind you. If there is a movie I want to see on the big screen, and
there's not many, I'll go to the Cinemark. I was at a local A/V store
recently and one of the salesman said he couldn't understand why
us Stereo Stalwarts had a problem with muti-channel set ups. He
said just switch your DPL A/V receiver, if that's what you have, into
two channel mode and listen away. It may sound good to him but
there are compromises in that design, no thanks. I just really think
this HT thing is a bunch of CRAP!
Canton, Ohio. No interest in HT. My Apogee Stages provide all the "surround sound" I need.
I RUN MY MOVIES WITH A TWO CHANNEL SET UP. SUB TO ADD WEIGHT WHEN NEEDED. AVON LAKE, OH

WHEN I WANT TO READ OR SLOW DOWN AFTER A HARD DAY THE TWO CHANNEL / LP DOES IT FOR ME!
Brecksville,Ohio. No need for a TV or multi-channel sound needed here.GREETINGS! Tom