Cleveland, OH

Well I am almost settled in at the new place, but things are a long way from being ready to go. Many issues with this house have kept me busy when I am not working. I hope to get my rig back up and running with the new components this week and break them in whil I am out of the country for a while. I will be ready to host this get together sometime in May, April is a no go do the the previous occupant not being out of the house till 2 weeks after I was to be in.
The room is much smaller than i was thinking and the basement is not finished as advertised, so we shall see what kind of results we get.

Are there any days that work best and who can make the drive in May?

Thanks and sorry for delays, I have have been going nuts with this moving thing.

andy

I agree with Tom (tpsonic), I prefer smaller, 2-3 person get-togethers. I just don't feel large audiences and high end audio lend themselves to each other.

With school and work now I don't have any time for this. But I'd like to get something in the works for the summer at my place, perhaps.

Also the group was somewhat functional/disfunctional before 2005. So I don't quite understand the swan songs for this group. Its demise is overestimated.

Aaron

SURE, AS LONG AS I DONT HAVE TO HELP YOU MOVE. I AMA TUBE GUY WITH VINTAGE SPEAKERS BUT I NEED TO OPEN MY MIND TO MY NEXT STEP. FILL BE IN AND KEEP ME INFORMED. GOOD LUCK.

RAYMOND IN CLEVELAND HEIGHTS

Anyone want to get together in Brunswick mid april to help me get the rig up and running in the new house?
If there are any takers I will put this together.

Hey Andy,
Glad you had a good time and got your first taste of some equipment changes.
The Alon speakers really opened up after a half hour or so after sitting for a few months, the Pass Labs amp was amazing pure class A power, the Linn pre was great to hear aswell, we played around with the 2 subs placement and got some good results.
Any locals that would like to get involved are encouraged to email me so we can get aquainted "Ears and Beers" happens every month or so at diffrent houses and is always a good relaxed time.

Chad,
Thanks for the invite and your crazy jokes, you really got me good.

Tom,
Thanks for the ride and conversation. Learned a bunch in the hour or three we spent together in the car. Can't wait to listen to that rig of yours.

Craig,
Thanks for being a gracious host and for letting me in on my first real audio experience.

Mike,
Thanks for the great story, I think it may be the funniest I have heard relating to this hobby. Looking forward to seeing and hearing some of those creations in the lab.

Everyone,
Thanks for all the help and the good time. I was glad to get the chance to meet you all, hope that we can do this again soon. And in april, may, or June we can do it at my new place in Brunswick.

Food, fun, and tunes. What else could a guy want on a Saturday.

Two channel is alive.

Chad and Tom,

Thanks for letting me be apart of the fun that I am sure we will be having Saturday. It will be a learning chance for me. See ya in the morning.

andy

What is going on Saturday?

Well Saturday looks like its gonna be alot of fun, "Ears and Beers" should be a great time for all and I am thrilled to be able to pass along an invite to some fellow Agon members, along with beers and music from all over the world there will be several amps, pre amps and speakers to listen to, I am going to be bringing some solid silver and solid copper interconnects to listen to along with a reasonable priced after market power cord, maybe a CD player to check out aswell.
So for the few members who are going to be joining me I look forward to seeing you all on Saturday!

Yeah, "it's alive!"

Im still interested in a get together in the Cleveland area sometime soon. I travel a lot and need to know in advance of the date so that I can arrange to be in town when something happens. Keep me in the loop, Herman

I am in South Euclid. We have had 2 AK get togethers at my house. Probably the next one will be somewhere else, though not too far. I will post here and on AK when anything comes up.

Warren

need an audio meeting in cleveland heights our near by

Sorry I didn't reply to the get together. I subscribed to this thread before joining Audio Karma. We have a very active membership in the Cleveland area, and one guy who comes up from Columbus! I realy enjoy getting together with fellow audiophiles, but I really don't have time to participate in 2 clubs for get togethers. I'd like to suggest that we try to combine events. I volunteer to keep this group up to date on AK events in Cleveland and you are certainly invited to come. If you guys want to plan something I will likewise forward the info. Sorry I dropped the ball on the last one; it won't happen again. As for the AK fest, from all accounts it is lots of fun. We have several techs (myself included) as members. One guy brings his test equipment and you can get your equipment checked out. There is an equipment purchase / swap room. I would love to go but I just can't manage it right now.

Warren

The link for the fest is http://www.audiokarma.org/ak2006/

I went last year on Sunday and two manufacturers closed thier rooms at 1PM. Blue Note was one of them. I thought it was unethical since we paid $15 to get in. It is advisable to go on Saturday if possible

It is a nice place to pick up recordings and hear some vintage equipment.

It might be advisable to start small.Get two-three people together,then over-lap.This is a rather personal "sport" and really shouldn't be done by committee.I have gotten together with LVK47,Hford653,Aroc and Indikah.Very different systems,but all pleasurable.But the most important aspect of all this has been an exchange of music.
Thank you all for the additions to my music selection,and of course the input and feedback from the members above on my DIY spealer system-much appreciated.
Feel free to contact me,though I prefer a smaller scale.
Tom

Andy,
What are the details of the AK fest? What is it when is it who will be there?

Keep hope alove Andy. Even 2 people can be a club!
Vik
Cle. Heights

I have one last effort to get this going. Is there anyone that would be interested in going to the Detroit AK Fest, April 22-23?

Or is this club dead?

Andy

Man, that is very sad. All the trouble of getting ready to host something like this and then to not show. Sorry that is poor form. Did they at least call to say they could not make it? There wasn't even a game today. Who all said that they were coming and did not show?
Well at least we know this up front.
There are a few guys from the youngstown area I know are serious. A couple from southern and Central Ohio.
I have been wanting to see Chads rig for the better part of six months and will be headed towards youngstown soon.

Tgun, I hope you are not gunshy about giving this another try. Not at your place I guess.

Anyone willing to host the next "party"?

Let me apologize for the whole group.

Andy

Sorry Brownsanandy, Jim Frank and I are the only members the "Cleveland" audio club. Six others that confirmed they were coming did not show. Four others that said they hoped to make it didn't. Three including you said that they would make it another time. This makes a "maybe" audio club as far as I can tell.

I stepped up to the plate because I thought there was interest. There clearly isn't enough to take this thing forward. Gentlemen, two-channel in Ohio is dead. Actually, dedicated audiophiles are the true dying breed. We are the ones who would drop everything at a moments notice to drive 2-3 hours to hear the latest preamp. We would drive any distance if a fellow audiophile needed help or just an opinion on their latest acquisition. We love the music, the passion for the experience, the sharing of knowledge, meeting fellow audiophiles, and the equipment equally.

There are audio hobbyists. There are few audiophiles
I am disappointed.

At this very moment, the very first Cleveland/N.C.O. audio club is meeting together. My guess is that all are having a very nice time and the groundwork is being laid for a new group of audionuts.

Have fun all, wish I could be there.

I nominate Tgun for president. He has my proxy.

The meeting for this Sunday at 2:00pm is on as planned. Wives/girlfriends are welcome as my wife has a short shopping trip planned for a few local stores. There will be snacks and drink. We will get the club format planned. We can do a little listening as well.

So far, we have 7 confirmed attendees.

Anyone wishing to attend that I have missed that wants directions, please email me.

I am sad that I will not be there this weekend guys. Pleawe keep us posted on any developemts that take place. I look forward to meeting everyone in the next month or so.

I wanted to thank Lvk47, Hford653 and Indahka for stopping in and giving me feedbask on my DIY speaker system.With a little help from my friends,I believe this speaker will be a hard one to beat without a ton of cash invested.If you are in the market for speaker,please come take a listen.

Tom I can't come that weekend, my brother will be coaching his first home college basketball game and I will be there that weekend.

I do plan on being a part of this club.

Andy

Ps. You don't work for GLIDE do you?

Sunday the 29th at 2:00pm will be the first organizational meeting. I will email some other interested people directly. Please do the same.

Email me if you plan on attending - also if you can't make it this time, but plan on joining. This will be the planning meeting so that we can decide on club format, meeting times, and any other activities.

I will give you my address and directions upon your email.

Tom Roberts

Set a date Tgun and let's get this sucker on the road!

Vik
Cleveland Heights

I'll be happy to host the first organizational meeting.

Hey Guys,
Sorry for the delayed response. My father has been in and out of the Hospital 4 times since Thanksgiving. This has taken much of my time to this point.

It sounds like there are about four or five of us that range from Toledo to Youngstown east to west and from Cleveland to Columbus north to south. I think it would be good to find a Central location for the first meet. Once we settle on a location then we can focus on the date.
Saturdays and Sundays seem to be the universal choices for this meeting.

Who has a central meeting place that would be willing to host out small group?

Afro18 I also have the VPI HW19 TT. I am runnning the SAMA stand alone motor as well. What a smooth operation. You are definitely headed in the right direction with that upgrade.

I'm in the Cleveland area and would like to join a local club.

Next planned purchase/audition?
Either a VPI PLC or a SAMA for the HW 19 series.

Next part of your rig that you want to drop soonest?
On-board motor for the VPI HW 19 Series

Where do you shop for equipment?
Audiogon, Ebay, Hollywood Sound, BritAudio, AudioCubes,

How often do you check Agon
2/3 days a week.

How often would you like our club to meet?
Once a month.

What types of activities would you like to see become part of this club.
System critiques, group vinyl/high-end CD shopping.

Would you be willing to host a gathering?
Aboslutely. How much do you guys/gals like apartments :-)

How far are you willing to travel, what is the best day of the week for you to meet?
Being in Youngstown, I'd travel to Cleveland, Columbus, Akron and Pittsburgh (not in
our forum)

Are you still interested in an Ohio audio club?
Absolutely. People who can justify my insanity.

Anything else please add, just hoping to get this moving forward.
Any vinylphiles? Any in Youngstown?

Andy,

When 2-channel was king in the 70’s and 80’s, we had a group in the greater Sandusky area that met between 2-3 times a month to listen. The group consisted of 8-10 people and we never had a problem finding a willing host. Things have changed dramatically since then due to the advent of home theatre; however, 4 of these guys still live in the general area and would probably like to participate. I know of another 3 that live in Toledo that would drive periodically to Cleveland or closer.

The bottom line is that the Ann Arbor / Detroit group meets one a month on Sundays and they have anywhere from 5-15 people at those meetings. Pretty informal – listening – eats – talk. They usually don’t have any problem getting host homes. This is an easy format to initiate. I’m all for visits to stores also if the group is up for it.

As far as how far I’ll drive, I have gone to 3 of the Detroit meetings @ 2-2 1/2 hour drive times and meet pretty regularly with a friend in Toledo. Most of the group attended the Detroit audio show last year. I have driven 7 hours to a CD player shootout in Chicago. I have driven overnight many times to hear new gear at stores far out of state. I’m pretty serious about the hobby and distance is not an issue. The group I know feels about the same.

As far as the other info you are looking for…..I shop/read Audiogon at least twice a week. I’ve bought equipment from many retail shops around the country as well as used stuff online. I have good friendships with John and Bob at Golden Gramophone, Mike at Audio Visions, and Art at Genesis Audio. Our group bought (4) Tympani 1D’s, (4) Audio Research SP6A’s, (3) Threshold 400A’s and (2) Audio Research D52B’s in one day in 1984 from GG.

Please email me with any additional info you need to put this together.

I would like to gather some information to help us get to know each other. Some basic information like name, age, occupation, and years interested in high end audio.

Next planned purchase/audition?

Next part of your rig that you want to drop soonest?

Where do you shop for equipment?

How often do you check Agon?

How often would you like our club to meet?

What types of activities would you like to see become part of this club.

Would you be willing to host a gathering?

How far are you willing to travel, what is the best day of the week for you to meet?

Are you still interested in an Ohio audio club?

Anything else please add, just hoping to get this moving forward.

Andy

Alfro,
There are two other guys from your area that have expressed intrest. I am planning a trip in the next few weeks. Then we were thinking of meeting in Cleveland later. The other thing that has been discussed would be a trip to the Audio store on High St in Columbus some time soon.

I live in Youngstown, Ohio and interested.

Marty

I grew up in North olmsted

I'm in Sandusky and am interested. I just emailed Marc (null1)in Toledo last week about forming a club and he and 2 other Toledo guys would be active. I also know a long-time audiophile that moved to North Olmstead that would be interested. Lets all get together.

I will be in Avon on the first for a Wedding. Have been there often.

I think we need to pick a date in January with a location and see who can make it. Any weekend in January save the 1st is good for me.
I know there is a guy in Euclid that was interested and another in Hinkley.

great idea. not sure where you guys are at exactly. im in avon lake ohio. far west side of cleveland. let me know what your thinking.

Well, I am going to have some down time after the first of the year and would like to get this idea moving. Are there any suggestions for this club?
I would like to meet some others to demo gear to learn in first person. I have tried to read as much as possible, now It is time to listen. I would also like to get opinions of others on my modest system. I plan on meeting with Chad next month, maybe we can set up a meet and greet.

We have talked about this long enough, lets get this moving.

Hi,all
I live in an eastern suburb[orange] and was wondering if anyone would be available to spend a short time listening to my modest system and help me decide between upgrading a cdp or preamp. Please email off list janlar5@yahoo.com
I do not have a lot of free time but I am sure we can work something out. Thanks, Larry
system: aragon 4004mk2-amp
aragon 24k-pre
arcam 5 plus-cd
altec iconic horn speakers

Aaron/Aroc,thanks for the vote of confidence.I do try to help those who have been bitten by this audio-bug.
Gregmorris, Are you/were you originally from Brecksville?

If I can be of assistance in the local area-give me a shout.
Sincerely,Tom Quayle/Tpsonic

I second the "two thumbs down" on Bernie at Play It Again Sams. He practically wants retail for used gear. Back in the day before the internet PIAS was the only way locally to sell used gear. Thank God for AudioGon. Brownsanandy- If your looking for the most bang for your buck-I would buy your gear right here on A-Gon. Before you buy-determine what your budget is. Read the forum/do searches on potential gear your thinking about purchasing. Ask questions/start threads/most people on this site have been at this game a long time and have a wealth of knowledge their usually willing to share. IMHO- Stick with well known gear. It makes it easier to sell down the road. Quality used gear can be generally had for around 40-50% of retail. Try and buy from people with alot of solid transactions(points) This website is by far the best way of building a quality setup/for less. Good luck

PIAS does seem to charge higher. So I would avoid them. Actually the best bet in the Cleveland area is to drive to Progressive Audio in Columbus, OH on High St. on the OSU campus. It's definitely worth the two hours drive. Other than that, I recommend Golden Grammophone in Fairlawn on Rt.18 (Akron, OH area). Not much else except for Audio Visions. But don't go in there if you either an audiophile or young. You don't seem to get the best service or looks. Probably the best bet is to contact guys like Tom Quayle or Don Better and see what they can do for you. I know I've been meaning to drop some coin on a complete set of Mapleshade heavyfoots ever since I heard them in my system. The personal touch is nice.

Happy hunting

Aaron

Thanks for the heads up.

Dont talk to Bernie at Play it again Sam unless you dont mind paying 30%+ over bluebook value

Does anyone have some suggestions of some good used audio dealers in the state of Ohio?
The only one I know of is Play it Again Sam in Cleveland.

Anyone here can feel free to email me anytime