This version rival any other great one i know of indeed...It is very delicate and poetical interpretation...the drama is interiorized...
Save for only one version nobody exceed anyway and which is in a class of his own but a version "sound purist" dont always love because too volcanic and too powerful playing by "Liszt reincarnated" for Hungarian People...
Angelich is with Lupu a giant for me...
This piece is the key to Liszt soul...Many versions are welcome...
And Liszt is one the greatest underestimated composers there is because of his Christus among other works, which is the only oratorio with the Messiah for me rivaling Bach Passion...
Liszt deeply influenced Bruckner with Shubert through this oratorio who rival even the Greatest Mass of Bruckner himself... So astounding that the first time i listened to it i was out of my chair and never understood at the first listening the majestic simplicity of Liszt devotion and his mastering of symphonic orchestration chorus and soloists so great and purified and refined to a a truly celestial perfection that nobody ever exceed it for me among any composers.. He unite the most moving simplicity with the peak of glory which is an impossible task and union save in Paradise... I think Liszt conversion was really a spiritual one...
.. i owned four version of this three hours work... 😁😊
It is the life of Christ told by angels in heaven after the resurrection for me ...Not a Passion at all...
It is like the Art of the Fugue by Bach, the only work i know at the same heights of perfection on all counts form and content which put almost any other works under them save few truly inspired spiritual works...
I am ashamed to say i discovered Listz only late in life...Too great for my small mind and heart it seems, i was not ready ...I dont joke here...This work humble us...
It is useless to put a link to this 3 hours work and feel the right impression without immersing ourself in it...You cannot judge the Himalaya from below...
The only work for me that rival Liszt Christus is not his marvellous choral works so great they are indeed, but his 5 th symphony...Incredible work underestimated to this day, because the beauty of his other symphonies are easier to catch at first listening... But no one ever write a symphony so perfect in content and form with a so intense spiritual experience hidden in it i put it beside the cHristus and the Art of the fugue... The Bruckner 9 th symphony for example so deep, beautiful it is and it is rival almost any symphonic piece ever written, lack the purified, refined spiritual perspective over the cosmos itself and over all life there is in the 5th... A great critic in the 10 century say it all : "this is to the symphony art what the art of the fugue is to the klavier "...
|
Appear very interesting to me...To say the least...it is very delicate and clear voicing...
My favorite version is Feltsman in Moscow...This one is so different that it will be complementary...Feltsman was propulsed like a meteoritic surge in some sky, Angelich is inward in his own explicit way ...I cannot put words for now...it is a discovery for me...
it seems we just lost two giant pianists...
|
It never listened to him...
It seems pretty great pianist too...
RIP.
|
...at great risk of preaching up the choir, here are some choice TIDAL categories. I suspect similar availability on Qobuz and other services:
Deutsche Grammophon 120
ECM (label) Classical
Living Stereo Top 50
Decca Sound
Label Focus: Mercury - TIDAL Masters
Jazz
Rudy Van Gelder Edition
Misc
Computer Audiophile 100
More Peace Pin (laser ruler for sound room!)
|
Nicholas Angelich dead at 51
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/20/arts/music/nicholas-angelich-dead.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Obituaries
|
I have just been talking about Lupu playing Schubert and I am listening to another superlative player of the bard of the piano. Grigory Sokolov playing at the Esterhazy Palace and Schubert of such purity and crystalline beauty. He is another one who doesn't like the recording studio and prefers to have his recitals recorded instead. I remember it must have been 30 years ago a recital Sokolov did in Queen's Hall Edinburgh and he was just about ready to come on and the house lights went off and the piano was lit by one solitary spot. one person took exception to this and started mouthing off about it for quite a while when I suddenly jumped to my feet and shouted back to him "you wouldn't be shouting if it was Richter". He sat down meekly and didn't say another word and we enjoyed the recital after that. Sokolov may be a controversial pianist but there is no argument that he is one of the greats.
|
I had one Lupu lp that I loved, all Brahms, the Second Rhapsody and some of the late Piano works. I saw him in recital 20 years ago. He seemed uncomfortable in the large Orchestra Hall venue, maybe just a bad afternoon. I purchased a box labeled “The Complete Decca Recordings “ and it’s only around 12 discs, a relatively small recorded legacy, and not much for the last 3 decades or so. R.I.P.
|
Heard Lupu in Edinburgh many years ago, playing of infinite beauty and virtuosity beyond reproach but only for the music not the crowd. We are fortunate he left us a large recorded legacy. Never be another Schubert player like him.
|
RADU LUPU
Includes COMPLETE DUETS
with PERAHIA, BARENBOIM,
CHUNG & HENDRICKS
Murray Perahia · Daniel Barenboim
Kyung Wha Chung · Barbara Hendricks
|
Radu Lupu was a Giant , no one was like him .
This Requiem is for us, he needs none. .
He was a deeply kindly .modest ,and a wonderful friend.
Jenny Vongel . his manager said he died peacefully at his home in Switzerland on Suday eve, April 17 . No better than that .
|
His Chopin here is one of the best possible playing...
|
Ah!
This remind me i am almost 71 years old and this remind me that he is a giant for sure...
Sad...
I will listen to him tonight with a prayer
...
It does not take more than few seconds to discover an interpretion by him which is supremum...
He walked on embers with an internal pulse that is never outside of the music, the music played him more than he play it...
|
Radu Lupu dead at 76
“Why should I make a big show of the whole thing?”
|
I cannot stop before letting you know this one of Pavel... Seems marvellous after 2 minutes...
|
I will stop here but it seems Antonin or Anton his brother is not far behind him...
The world contains more geniuses than we can count with a big crowd hands ...
They are not well known if known at all simply...
|
This Pavel so marvellous had a Brother Antonin...
Is his brother a genius too?
to be continued............... 😁😊
|
|
|
|
Pay attention:
There is 96 parts of this composer works in this youtube list...
This is the first part...
|
I lack adjectives to describe my surprize...
many hours of listenings of very high caliber...
|
|
There is no end to his genius!
listen to this cello...
|
Excellent composer, preferred by Haydn and Beethoven for conducting his works. (Wikipedia)
viva Moravia!
|
This one is longer than this one part...Clik to the youtube link for other parts...
opus 52 is more mature creation and seems a marvel of orchestration and melody...
|
stupendous exploration...This one rival many opus of Haydn after few minutes...
|
I dont think that he is way behind Hadyn genius...
|
|
Flabbergasted by these gems...
All interpretations are at a high level...
|
Listen to that it takes few minutes to be under the spell:
|
Incredible! All is beautifully written...
|
Seems more and more like a genius...
|
The one our friend edcyn was speaking about
|
We must pay attention to the different spelling of the name......
A great composer for me...
It is not what means a minor composer for me....
This is opus 11...
|
Wow! i dont know for the opus 31 but opus 52 is a marvel...
Thanks indeed....
|
Lately I’ve been cruising Idagio and have just randomly pressed the play button for composer Paul Wranitzky, a contemporary of both Beethoven and Mozart. His Symphony Opus 31, "La Paix", is currently streaming my way. It’s bright, happy, tuneful, and beautifully recorded, I don’t know about you guys, but streaming has gained me entrance into Aladdin’s cave. See you on the flip side, if streams do indeed have flip sides.
|
I have all Richter too and like jim559 i am more a worshipper of Bach than a fan ...
Happy easter to all....
|
Yes , I have them all .
More a worshiper than a fan ,esp. on Easter .
Listening to BWW 82, 'Ich habe genug" as I write this !
Happy Easter to all .
|
R u a fan of Johann Sébastian Bach? U r now.
Karl Richter Complete recordings on Archiv including 24/192 recordings of Cantatas, Passions and Mass in B minor. Better than SACD.
|
My favorite piano concerto is his second... 😁😊
And his requiem is so great ... His vocal compostion mastery is equal to Schubert...
I cannot contradict you about Brahms..
When i listen to him he appear like you say no doubt...
If they had the Top Ten composers of yore , Brahms would be in my top 5 .
|
If they still had the Top Ten composers of yore , Brahms would be in my top 5 .
|
Celibidache always made me see things with his tempos of his mighty Munich men, .This great Brahm’s made me jump out of my chair , as good as any music I ever heard ! All the greatness that Brahms alone used was there in all his glory .
The use of Harmony devlop, minor 3rd.7minor balance, dotted semi-quarter16, the melodic 3 note idea.And on and on to heaven .
|
Thanks! great choice...
There is a mystery Celibidache...
I will listen it...
|
|
|
But because this universal internal beat and rythm precede TIME itself it can accomadate many manifestation at the same time... Compare the adagio version from Furtwangler to the Celibidache version...The Bohm version and the Giulini version also...Karajan,Wand and some others...
it is impossible to choose really...There is many different roads that come from the same peak and go back to it....
|
i cannot resist to post that...
«Furtwängler has always been Bruckner’s great protagonist. In 1942, the Telefunken firm persuaded Furtwängler to experiment with improvements in recording technique. Having consented, he opted for the famous Adagio from the 7th symphony, and later for Gluck’s Alceste Overture, in order to verify, as he said himself, whether the microphones were capable of restoring the breadth of his orchestra, and particularly the famous double basses of Berlin.
The results were amazing. This interpretation of Bruckner by Furtwängler is the slowest and yet the most sustained with its striking tension. Once again the tragic element and the grandeur of the speech are unmatched. It is indeed a recording for a desert island, happily restored to the delight of music lovers everywhere, to be kept and cherished for a lifetime.
Ironically, its tragic grandeur did not deter the Nazis from playing this recording on Radio Berlin to announce Hitler’s death, long after Furtwängler had fled Germany. Suffice it to say simply that no man, however great, or a fortiori vile, is worthy of the dimensions of this work.»
«
|
For Alain Connes and for Roger Penrose too the distribution of prime numbers express a musical universal memory beat that comes from BEFORE this universe and INFORM it...
We reincarnated probably to add something new to "the music score"...Pygmies and Yoruba drummers get it more easily than us thats all...They have not waited for geometer like Connes to teach them... 😁😊 And the first humans creating language too...
Furtwangler never directed symphonies with an EXTERNAL beat but with an INTERNAL pulse emerging with the music itself... Valery Gergiev explain it well...
«Valery Gergiev: The most difficult thing in conducting is to avoid a mechanical beat. This endless search for a true tempo, the right tempo for every bar of music, and not just a single tempo for the whole movement, is something few conductors ever master. Few leaders will recognize, perhaps, that it is something difficult for them, but they will try to do it and compete with Furtwängler, and most likely they will fail.»
This also explain why some jazz musicians are so great, like the youruba drummers, they are not handicapped by the burden of INTERPRETATING with the right beat written music and more easily access to this spontaneous spiralling waves expressed in pygmies songs or Amerindian or Indian drummers...Spiralling waves of the cosmic primes or divine heart itself...
By the way Connes admitted he was inspired by palindromic rythm studies of Olivier Messiaen and discovered a relation between palindromic beats and some non commutative operators in Hilbert Space that described genesis of time itself...
This is why MUSIC COMMAND TIME not the reverse......
I will stop here...
i hope to have convinced some that music is not about our taste only and is not only a hobby but a key to the heart and to the cosmos....
My best to all
|
|
We can map the sound and the numbers in a different way...
Another one :
|
