change from wilson benesch p3.0 to magico s5 mk1

I think the Magico is a better loudspeaker but it really is a sideways move and I do not think you are going to get much better bass. In a room your size neither speaker is going to do much of anything below 40 Hz maybe even higher. If you want bass you would be better off keeping the WBs and adding subwoofers. You are digital all the way so, the first thing I would do is get a digital processor like a DEQX, MiniDSP, Trinnov or Anthem ( I like the Trinnov best) These units have bass management built in so adding subs and getting them integrated is a breeze. In a room that size I would use minimum of four 12" subwoofers. To give you "live" impact at reasonable volumes you want to boost the low end so it rises from 100 Hz and is up 5-6 dB at 20 Hz. These units also have room control so you can get the frequency response of the bass right on at the listening position. Everywhere else depends on room acoustics. 

thanks. atm i have 2 seismic 110 but dont use them for stereo just movies the vitus has 2 xlr L and R i could use for subs. is that where they go in the chain?

Agree with Mijostyn. WBs are not bass heavy speakers to start with and are very linear. Magico is similar. I would use the Seismic’s for music at least but more/bigger subs would be better. That will give you the increased bass you are looking for.

I was a dealer for WB for many years..how long have you owned them? 
Takes a while to break in

oct 2020. i have a very wide room. 11 metres. 4.5 deep. i have a lack of punchey rich bass from 70 to 200.

my bass at 40hz is good so some of it is room but i think bigger woofers would help bring out some mid low bass enforcement.

My experience with the geometry series is that WB just doesn't emphasize bass.  I am not sure Magico is the answer as it is much brighter.  

Vivid Kaya 90s might solve your issue as they are not much brighter than the WBs and have much better bass response.  

I have 45s sitting next to Vertexes.  

A customer of mine had a pair of paramount 200 watt amps. Traded them for an Esoteric 30 watt class A stereo amp....the bass was so much better. Look for a good amplifier...The midrange on WB speakers is exceptional, never loss site of that and if you aren't taken with it then the new amp and perhaps a lovely tube preamp. 

thanks. i think its my room is to big and hard. im gonna try more acoustic treatment. i believe my vitus sia 025 is a very good rich liquid sounding amplifier. would i be correct is saying the harder the reflective surface are in a room the mid top end will be brighter harsher and the mid low will be softened?

I never needed much room treatment with the WB speakers from the small monitor trinity to the larger Endeavours. . Let your speakers tell you when they are happy. Bring them out from the walls toe them in a bit sit about 6 to 8 feet back and then see how they sound. 

These speakers take quite a while to break in so be patient, relax ( I know that is difficult ) and see how they blossom. 

Sounds like you are looking for fuller bass. You don't say what speaker cables you have; they are important for synergy at this level. Not sure the sealed cabinet S5 would get you more fullness.

howdy i use purist audio neptune 3 metre luminist series also i have made significant changes that have helped the bass bloom more.

howdy all. just an update on the journey.

 

so i moved to a mk 2 ayon over mk1. it is better in every way but still keeps the same sound signature.

 

i then bought a gigawatt pf 2 power strip. which really opened the sound up. with 2 days i was buying a gigawatt pc 3se with a ls 1 power cable.

 

this really opened up the sound. clean clear and precise.

 

i then removed my home theatre signal from my dedication line and used my pf2 as a power isolater.

 

so pf2 has

 

TV

MARANTZ

SUBWOOFER

SILENT ANGEL BONN N8 SWITCH

 

gigawatt pc 3 se evo is run of dedicated gigawatt in wall power cable. pc 3 se has only.

 

VITUS SIA 025 in first socket

 

AYON S10 MK2 in last socket.

 

this made a substantial difference to weight power bass removing Home theatre pf2 from pc 3 se.

 

i was surprised at this as you would think they would filter one another out.

 

i then changed the 5 gang power gpo to a clipsal 2000 series 2 gang. not sure if that has achieved anything. i also have a clipsal 56 series plug which is switchless i will try later. ill keep you posted.

 

i then added 2 quantum science red fuses into the ayon and vitus one at a time vitus first then ayon second. these made a huge difference. power. depth richness. detail.

 

lastly. ive just had some acoufelt wall acoustic panels added to one of my larger walls. it looks great and has made my living room so much nicer to be in. especially listening to music and chatting with friends and family at the same time. before i always had the music basically off because of slap echo.

 

here are some photos...

 

 

 

 

 

Tile floor, glass top table, sliding glass doors, Yikes....Not a recipe for sweet sound. How about a few throw rugs Live a little. Risk a divorce, soften up that room. No more money of gear. 

Tile floor, glass top table, sliding glass doors, Yikes....Not a recipe for sweet sound. How about a few throw rugs Live a little. Risk a divorce, soften up that room. No more money of gear. 

the wall with the mirror is full of treated acoustic panels fyi