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Cerious cables - Proper setup and run in time

Results on testing Cables especially Cerious cables
These cables need at least 4 days to settle in, if you take them out of the system, (The process starts over again.)That is the only proper way to do this , because of the liquid ceramic , that is the only way to fairly judge them point 2. if your loudspeakers are over 90 db effficient Bob needs to know at Cerious , also if you are in a high Magnetic area such as airports. Bob would rather not have to sheild them if possible. High efficiency
loudspeakers will bring out hum for sure in a non sheilded cable ,that is why results showed this on a 101db loudspeakers at Srajans .Try the test under these guide lines I have laid down, after 4 days you will see a totally more positive result, a very natural not pushed presentation. Please remember , and try this,
many times people get used to artificial enhancments
Like a Valhala cable for example excellent in some areas and applications,way to clinical in other systems dependand as in most all cables,
and preference .Go to a symphony and listen,
things in life are ususally smoother than you experience on a playback system ,especially cd , ananlog is allways smoother .I have been a audio engineer for over 30 years and have voiced several electrostatic loudspeakers .
Where in the midrange they are natural, and magical.
The big debate on reference cables, compared to in life , or not, also Bob at Cerious needs to ask how efficient
the speakers are,impedances, and the environment and surroundings to
give sheilded cables if needed .This will become standard procedure soon. Happy listening, PJ.
aaudiophile
judy426
228 posts
 
>>If you don't care, what is an "Audio Engineer"?<<

The guy who plays the music on Amtrak.
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ozzy
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Wow, after reading 6 Moons conclusion what a difference from their first review.
I own the Zu Variel, Zu Ibis and Zu Mother power cord. I thought they were ok for the money but moved them to my Home theatre setup.
It seems the 6 moons reviewer was way bent to Zu Cables. In addition to all the Zu cables I mentioned above he also had Zu Speakers ! It also looked like he had flea Amps.
The other reviewer was using a Pass x 250.5 Amp.

Anyway, I just recieved my 2 meter balanced Ct Cables today. First few minutes of listening to the Cerious cables they sounded closed in. Typical of new cables, however, no hum , no bad noise what so ever!

Its been about 2 hours now and the bass has improved (never sounded flabby) actually, they are very good sounding in bass quality right now. The closed in sound has improved.
I do hope the upper treble improves over the next few days.

Thank you all for the advise on letting them settle for a few days before passing judgement.
apogee
4 posts
 
Ozzy:

Waiting has definitely made a difference in my experience with the cables. The first night they seemed a little less full than what I was use to....though several notches up in clarity. I also thought that the top end was lacking. In retrospect, as I have listened more, there is much less grunge in the top end than I am use to hearing. This, I believe is what gave me the impression that they had a tilted down top end. I am hearing such detail from the snare drum skin, to the residual shimmer of cymbals. Each instrument has the appropriate energy relative to the other instruments.

Evening 3, and now the performance is so clearly in my room.....no....I am in the original space that the recording was made. Listening to more choral music with pipe organ I find the bass is every bit as extended as my system will allow and that is down to around 19Hz....and did I mention the clarity. I have never heard the "shuddering" of the very lowest pipes with such clarity and ambience....just like what I have heard in a large cathedral.

I too have efficient speakers, around 94 db/m/W and I have no hum problem.

Ozzy....just wait till day 3!!!!
oneprof
147 posts
 
One question I would have for Srajan regarding his review is why he thinks that the cables are at fault rather than the RCA terminations. I fully agree with him that the connectors are not so great, they always seem to be too loose on my BAM. In his and Jules Coleman's reviews of the production Indras versus the betas, changing the connectors from stock WBT's (at least I think they were WBT's) to special proprietary connectors improved the performance of the cable by 20? 30? percent. Would a similar 'upgrade' for the Cerious result in a similar improvement? I gather that the balanced Cerious use Stereovox's Xhadow termination--has anybody A-B'd RCA and XLR Cerious IC's?
Also worth mentioning that Srajan discusses repeated connection and disconnection of the IC's--in my instructions for the cable it says in big letters DON"T MOVE THEM!
fiddler
581 posts
 
When I had the Cerious cables in my system, I had no hum. They were very quiet. And my speakers are 97db.

I did not move the cables when they were in my system and they did improve after about three days. They sounded much better.

But my findings, which I posted before Srajan's follow-up review was released, mirrored Srajan's experience. I thought the clarity was very good, the cables were quiet with a nice black background and the mid-range was lush and full.

My problem with the CT cables is that the leading edge seemed soft and therefore the dynamics of the music was affected. There was a smoothing effect to the cables. Very nice, but not as dynamic as what I was used to. I thought the frequency extremes were a little less extended and the soundstage was a good foot lower than my current cables.

None-the-less, not a bad cable at all. To the contrary, a very good cable, but just not quiet as good as what I already had.
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