Room needs to create software that just works with the avg subscribers computers
This:
throttling the background processing as suggested helps reserve processing power for other tasks so that is a good idea.
Shouldn't even be a thing
Brain Farts w/ Roon Nucleus
I have an original Roon Nucleus with a SSD drive in it. Around 3GB of music. Together with Tidal, Roon tells me that I have 2039 Artists, 4312 Albums, 61239 tracks, and 136 composers. That is likely more than most users, but not as many as some of you, so I have read.
On a fairly regular basis, Roon has these brain farts moments, lasting 10-15 minutes, where I get the twirling Roon Icon and the system is shut down from playback. It always eventually comes back. I don’t know the technical term, but I think it is a resort, reorganizing, re-something to the whole data base of music. It always happens at the most inopportune time. Roon online forum has never come clean for me with an answer/fix.
I have revamped my Ethernet cabling and both the Roon Nucleus and the DAC/Streamer are mainlined, so I know it is not network drop outs.
I’ve read that others have had a similar problem, but never read a solution. I have been looking into several angles to stop this. (1) Upgrade to the Roon Nucleus Titan. (2) Checking out to see if some other Roon Ready Server is a better functioning piece of equipment, like the Innous.
I have two DACs/Servers in the house - BlueSound & dCS Lina - and they both have the same brain farts with Roon.
I really like the functionality of Roon on the Nucleus. My issue is not sound quality of Roon, it is the performance. I must admit, that in all of my reading I have not been able to compare the functionality of a Roon Ready Innous vs. Roon Nucleus, or any other Streamer that folks mention here on the forum.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
@kennymacc Thanks for that. Some solace in not being an outlier in this issue. I have two iPads, my phone and a desktop computer, and when I get the squirrelly Roon icon it is happened on all of them. Wish it was isolated to one device, but sadly no. @audphile1 Thank you for the suggestions. I changed the Library>Background Audio Analysis Speed setting to Throttled. I will do as you suggest, make one adjustment at a time to see if I can make some progress. @erik_squires I may not be Bill Gates, Paul Allen or an Apple Engineer, but I do know my way around a bit. As I eluded to in the Original Post, I don't find Roon's user forum or help site very helpful, and as with most these day there a many options, toggles to choose from. Hence asking for help here. I also don't think I need to lift the hood to have a Roon Nucleus without performance issues. @phishhhhh4 I'm going to stop by a few audio dealers tomorrow and see what they have to say. I don't think either of them are Innuos dealers though. @mapman @stijnv My Roon Nucleus is the Roon Server (I believe that is the correct terminology). I have the app on my iPad, phone and PC. I don't run Roon off a Mac Mini or anything like that, as do many. @boostedis Thank You @gkelly I love you too! I often don't react to ever post individually. It helps to get the gamut of thoughts before react. Thanks everyone. This conservation has been helpful, and will continue to be as I navigate to a fix, be that a Titan, Innuos, or just a setting tweak.
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This in a nutshell is why any device like this will be obsolete in a few years. Why you will need either an IT background, or know a IT person to keep these units running long term. You purchased a cheap computer, in a nice case, applied updates. Then your library has grown over time. This sounds like an indexing issue. Any 1gb network will have 0 issue streaming music, you need around 5mb to stream hi-rez. Unless your network is not setup properly, it's not your network. CPU intensive? To stream music? Nope, it's not, it's disc intensive, buffer/ram Doing DAC is CPU intensive, but just the TCP/IP stream? Nope Back to the disk, think if you have a big collection of music, you need a fast disk with good cashing, and error correction buffers. This will cost 2-3x over a cheap disk. Chances are the software has indexing jobs that run on some time table. These can make anything come to a stop. Yes, having more resources will help, but it is an entire system process. Yeah, having a shell open, seeing everything that is running, what is taking up resources. https://www.unixtutorial.org/commands/top/ Honestly, the easiest way to stream your cataloged music, if to have it on a high quality USB disk, plug that into your DAC or streamer. Keep the music separate from your "computer" . This way you can upgrade the chain and not affect all other parts. You separate the OS from the data. Or you get a NAS, learn about networking and QOS, mount that drive on your endpoint. My NAS failed (network card failed), just moved everything to an external disk. Simple, is always better. |
My experience with Roon was similar to other users. It was great until Harmon bought it. Within two months it had just about lost all reliable functionality. I got so frustrated I cancelled my subscription. I was hoping that going with a turnkey solution would guarantee functionality. If it doesn’t, I’ll be looking for a different solution. |