Brain Farts w/ Roon Nucleus


I have an original Roon Nucleus with a SSD drive in it.  Around 3GB of music.  Together with Tidal, Roon tells me that I have 2039 Artists, 4312 Albums, 61239 tracks, and 136 composers.  That is likely more than most users, but not as many as some of you, so I have read.
 

On a fairly regular basis, Roon has these brain farts moments, lasting 10-15 minutes, where I get the twirling Roon Icon and the system is shut down from playback.  It always eventually comes back. I don’t know the technical term, but I think it is a resort, reorganizing, re-something to the whole data base of music.  It always happens at the most inopportune time. Roon online forum has never come clean for me with an answer/fix.

I have revamped my Ethernet cabling and both the Roon Nucleus and the DAC/Streamer are mainlined, so I know it is not network drop outs.

I’ve read that others have had a similar problem, but never read a solution.  I have been looking into several angles to stop this.  (1) Upgrade to the Roon Nucleus Titan. (2) Checking out to see if some other Roon Ready Server is a better functioning piece of equipment, like the Innous.

I have two DACs/Servers in the house - BlueSound & dCS Lina - and they both have the same brain farts with Roon.  

I really like the functionality of Roon on the Nucleus.  My issue is not sound quality of Roon, it is the performance.  I must admit, that in all of my reading I have not been able to compare the functionality of a Roon Ready Innous vs. Roon Nucleus, or any other Streamer that folks mention here on the forum.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

pgaulke60

IMO, none of you understand what the OP is experiencing! As a longtime Roon user, the platform was near perfect until they got bought by Harmon! This is when Roon began to ‘hang up’ repeatedly during listening sessions. The suggestions given are all good connectivity practices, but the problem is with Roon itself, not a particular user issue or setup or combination of gear. 
 

Also, the suggestions of using some other file rendering platform is a little short-sighted because I’m not aware of one as powerful, intuitive and complete as Roon especially for the artist metadata and layout. You are comparing a Carrola to a Ferrari! 

Pretty sure it’s the processing on the old Nucleus that’s at fault. 
My roon core is on the 2018 Mac Mini with 8GB RAM. Nothing fancy. It’s been solid. Hope disabling the back end scans and DSP if necessary will resolve the Roon brain farts. 

Room needs to create software that just works with the avg subscribers computers 

This:

throttling the background processing as suggested helps reserve processing power for other tasks so that is a good idea. 

Shouldn't even be a thing 

I really don’t understand why a person asked a question and then doesn’t participate in the thread. They make me feel that I’m wasting my wasted time. 

@kennymacc  Thanks for that. Some solace in not being an outlier in this issue.  I have two iPads, my phone and a desktop computer, and when I get the squirrelly Roon icon it is happened on all of them.  Wish it was isolated to one device, but sadly no.

@audphile1  Thank you for the suggestions.  I changed the Library>Background Audio Analysis Speed setting to Throttled.  I will do as you suggest, make one adjustment at a time to see if I can make some progress.

@erik_squires  I may not be Bill Gates, Paul Allen or an Apple Engineer, but I do know my way around a bit.  As I eluded to in the Original Post, I don't find Roon's user forum or help site very helpful, and as with most these day there a many options, toggles to choose from. Hence asking for help here.  I also don't think I need to lift the hood to have a Roon Nucleus without performance issues.

@phishhhhh4  I'm going to stop by a few audio dealers tomorrow and see what they have to say.  I don't think either of them are Innuos dealers though.

@mapman  @stijnv  My Roon Nucleus is the Roon Server (I believe that is the correct terminology).  I have the app on my iPad, phone and PC.  I don't run Roon off a Mac Mini or anything like that, as do many.

@boostedis  Thank You

@gkelly  I love you too!  I often don't react to ever post individually.  It helps to get the gamut of thoughts before react.

Thanks everyone.  This conservation has been helpful, and will continue to be as I navigate to a fix, be that a Titan, Innuos, or just a setting tweak.