Borresen X3 vs Harbeth 40.2 -- my impressions


After reading so many glowing reviews of the Borresen X3 speaker, I decided to go and audition them at a local dealer who was gracious enough to let me stay there for over 4 hours. I went there with the intention of buying the X3 if they appealed to me. I thought I’d share my impressions here for those who are interested, especially in comparison to my Harbeth 40.2 speakers that I adore.

 

The dealer at first hooked them up to the Axxess Forte 1 integrated amp. To be brutally honest, I was about ready to bolt in the first 10 minutes. I just don’t understand why Axxess is getting so much praise. It was the most flat, dry, and boring sound I’ve heard. Luckily, the dealer had some very high end Burmester amp, preamp, and music server (close to $100K retail for the three pieces), which he agreed to use instead. Huuuuuge difference! The Burmester really made those Borresens come alive and sing. IMO, AGD is really doing a disservice to the X line by pairing them with the Axxess in audio shows. They are capable of scaling with much better gear. Shame!

 

If a massive, immersive, and holographic soundstage is your primary criteria and your budget is $11k max, you should stop reading at this point. Run and get these speakers before AGD decides to raise the price. I have yet to hear a speaker in this price range with this kind of soundstage. But if you value other aspects of music reproduction, keep on reading ...

 

Soundstage Width, Depth, and Height:

No contest. Borresen is noticeably better. The soundstage is as tall as it is deep. I heard sounds coming from besides me and behind me. Depth, while not outstanding, is there for sure. Just not as impressive as the height and width relatively speaking. I still can’t get that immersive feeling out of my head.

 

Ability to disappear:

This is one area where Harbeth always struggles. Owing to the thin walls of its cabinets, one is always aware of the big box the sound emanates from. The X3s totally disappeared. Again, very impressive for a speaker in this price range.

 

Vocals:

Sorry, but the X3 is simply not in the same league as the 40.2 when it comes to vocals. There’s this little extra, lifelike quality to vocals in most Harbeth speakers that is hard to beat. I listened to some very familiar songs on the X3, and it became clear why I fell in love with the Harbeth sound many years ago. Female voices are more ethereal and nuanced, male voices have more chestiness. You hear the emotions and every little inflection in the singers’ voice. It simply gives more of the ‘singer in the room’ feeling.

 

Instrument Separation:

This is a tough one. Both are excellent in this regard. But I will give a very slight edge to 40.2s here. Or maybe not. I don’t know. Let’s call it evens.

 

Transparency and Realism:

This is where Harbeth pulled ahead of the X3s in a major way. I’m not saying that the X3s are deficient by any means, but the 40.2s just give you a lot more of it. You really have to live with them for a while to truly understand and appreciate what this speaker brings to the table. It’s truly addictive. The only other speakers I’ve heard that are better in this regard are the Quads or other electrostatics.

 

Midrange and Lushness:

My impression of Borresen speakers prior to this was that they were very fast, neutral, and quiet. But, much to my surprise, the X3s (or perhaps the X line itself) has been voiced to be more on the warm side of things. Sound was warm and had body. Unfortunately, this is being achieved by adding a bit of a mid bass bump. While it gives the speaker an overall warm predisposition, I felt it came at the expense of hiding details in the mid bass region. Harbeth is also known for a lush midrange but it doesn’t get here by sacrificing detail or exaggerating the sound. Another side effect of this characteristic was that acoustic instruments felt bigger than life. Guitars felt like they were 10 foot long. Piano strokes lacked the bite and immediacy that I get with 40.2s – and by the way this is not a particularly strong point of Harbeth either.

 

Tone and Timbre:

Harbeth to the front of the line, please. The timbre and tonal accuracy of the 40.2s is on another level. X3s are also very good in this regard but are somewhat outclassed by Harbeth.

 

Overall Refinement:

I apologize in advance if this is going ruffle some feathers, but the 40.2s are overall much more refined sounding than the Borresen X series. Again, this is only in comparison. On its own, I would never label the X3s as unrefined. The Harbeth just has this extra layer of refinement that you come to appreciate the more time you spend with it.

 

Bass:

As they say, there’s no replacement for displacement. The 4.5” drivers on X3 produce a prodigious amount of bass which is hard to believe considering the size of the drivers. Yet, the 12” woofer on 40.2s gives you more of that deep and tuneful bass. It just sounds more satisfying and fuller.

 

Look and Feel:

This is very subjective, of course, so please feel free to take it with a grain of salt. But I was not impressed by how the X3s looked in person, they lacked elegance. It kind of reminded me of Tekton – okay, maybe that’s too harsh, I take it back. But I was a little disappointed as they looked really nice in pictures. Wish they would lose the carbon fiber touch and the checkered driver patterns. The Harbeths, on the other hand, don’t look as impressive and nice in pictures. I mean what do you expect from an oversized shoebox on stands. But, the quality and craftsmanship of hand-built cabinets has a more timeless and elegant feel to it that has to be seen and felt to be appreciated. I just feel this style, boring as it is, just ages more gracefully.

 

Long story short, I have decided to stay with my 40.2s. They have many quirks, as pointed out by several members on this forum. But what they do, they do it exceedingly well. I found the Harbeth 40.x to be overall more transparent, lifelike, refined, and balanced. They don’t do dynamics as good as other speakers or disappear as much as other speakers in this price range, but they more than make up for it in other ways. I’ve heard people claim that the X3 are twice (or even thrice!) as good as their asking price. If soundstage is your primary criteria for judging speakers, then I wholeheartedly agree. But if you value transparency, vocals, timbre, tonal accuracy, and overall refinement ... the Harbeth 40.x series justifies its higher price, despite the shortcomings.

 

Having said that, I was still very impressed by Borresen X3 and won’t mind having it as a second pair once they hit the used market. But I feel the hype doesn’t quite align with what I actually heard during the audition. In this price range, I find Audio Vector to be a better value.

 

Please note that these are my opinions based on a ‘mere’ 4-hour demo, and only in comparison to my favorite speakers. It’s totally fine if someone draws a completely opposite conclusion, or tells me that I’m biased. My taste, my preferences, IMO, IHMO, etc. etc. etc.

 

 

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Did ANYONE hear any imaging issues with the Borresens?  Anything strange?  I heard something quite definitive during every audition (3X).  

No imaging issues in my room with my system. They are arguably the best imaging speakers I’ve owned, perhaps only slightly bested by coaxials in terms of center image outline and depth. They are definitely the best with regard to instrument outlines at the left/right of the soundstage. Though I must note that the same pair produced a more “wall of sound” presentation (relative to my setup) at the dealer where they were spaced further apart by a couple feet. In that setup they made vocals sound larger than life. I didn’t let that deter me, however, because I’ve experienced similar presentations with many speakers at other dealers. I figured it was only a matter of the dealer failing to dial in the best toe angle or the room’s treatment scheme.

I can’t speak for the X2 towers. The dealer had them on display but I didn’t audition them. My guess is they image somewhat differently since their tweeters are above their midwoofers rather than below as in the X3s. 

 

Did ANYONE hear any imaging issues with the Borresens?  Anything strange?  I heard something quite definitive during every audition (3X). 
 

I have been breaking in a pair of X3 for about 30 days. Little frustrating at first as the center image had an off center,left channel tilt. After breaking in a bit and careful remeasuring, everything is rock solid. They sit on Townshend Seismic Podiums which bumps them up to another level. 
 

They replaced a pair of Persona 5 f’s ( which replaced Magico S3) I lose a tad transparency from the Personas but gain a huge soundstage with much fuller bass. 
They are sounding better every week and have around 150 hrs of the 500 that Borresen claims to get them peak performance. 
 

I am running a Coda CSiB integrated which runs class A for the first 18 watts per Coda. Borresen dealers usually will show the X model with the Axxess Forte electronics. Could be why I have heard comments on them being non musical. I have run them on all genre’s and they are definitely musical ,  I suspect amplifier matching could be the reasoning 

Regarding a mid bass hump that I have seen mentioned. I have a purpose built, golden ration room and there is no mid bass hump. The bass is tuneful, deep and tight( took a few weeks of break in)  I have put my custom swarm system up for sale as the bass is so good. 
 

Really liking what I am hearing with this speaker for under an under 10k street price.   Looks awesome in the room. The finish is beautiful. Perfect size speaker. 

Not exactly on point as I have no experience with the X3, but someone might find this useful. I’ve had an AGD ecosystem since shortly after the intro of the 2nd gen cabling.  From Aavik U300 through U-280 amps up to the D2 cables, eventually settling on the C2 as best bang. Only I was using the Raidho TD series for speakers. It was otherworldly. However, being fully invested in AGD I figured it could only get better adding the cherry on the top with a Borresen speaker. I was wrong. I sold my beloved TD for the B02 and absolutely hated it from day one. Thought I would get used to it and really tried for 6 months, nadda. Ended up going back to Raidho and the TD’s, sorry I ever left.

Just my experience but I’ve been at this for more decades than I care to admit and feel people should consider the Raidho TD series if Borresen is on their radar.

@benzman 

 

thanks, that is exactly what I heard. 

sounds like it can be fixed with precise positioning and aiming which I am prepared to do.  

ready for another audition ! 

Did anyone see the new review posted by Erin on youtube. As I mentioned earlier, while there was a lot to love about the X3's, there was something about the midrange that I didn't quite like. I still preferred the Harbeth 40.2's over the X3, especially when it pertained to midrange. I didn't evaluate the differences technically, but I think Erin's findings shed some light on my impressions. There's definitely something about it that didn't appeal to me.