Black Ice(former Jolida Company)new integrated amp opinions

 Black Ice is relatively new the company, but basically in name only. It is under the the same ownership as Jolida (owner Michael Allen & CEO Jerred Dunkerson) which has been around since the 80's. It's my understanding there was and issue between Jolida & it's Chinese partner who manufactured Jolida products which lead to the end of Jolida thus Black Ice was born.  Please know that I don't know all the details so I don't want to mislead. One thing for sure is that Jolida is no more & the name has been changed to Black Ice. The products under the Black Ice name are completely new where Black Ice commissioned Jim Fosgate (and audio designer since the 70"s) to be involved with the design. According to Dealers of Black Ice (former dealers of Jolida) the new Black Ice amps are not only superior in sound, but also fit & finish. Although a lot of the components may be purchased from China (like many amps today) the final assembly & quality checks are now done in Maryland. To me that's a big plus from the old Jolida product which was assembled & inspected in China. Anyway this all sounds interesting to me. I've seen some positive reviews & the Black Ice dealers say the stuff is great, but I'm hoping to hear from real users.Unfortunately there are no audio stores in my area that carry this product so I can't get a listen. I'm assuming since the product is fairly new I've yet to get any comments, so if you own or have auditioned a Black Ice amp please chime in. Thanks.

I purchased the Black Ice F35 with el34 tubes and it took around 200hours for the tubes and the amp to sound it's best. I love this amp much more than my Atoll and Kinki integrated amp. Warm,lush,transparent and dig really deep into the low frequency.

If they ever become available again, try new production Gold Lion KT88s in your F35. I prefer these over the Gold Lion Kt77s I tried previously.

I will second the k88 in the f35. I purchased the f35 about 6 months ago, just to have a different sound. My main amp is a Pass labs intergrated  60, soon to be replaced by pass intergrated 250. I use my f35 with kef LS50 and sub. When I switch set ups, I don’t miss my pass labs. Not saying the Black ice is better,  just a different sound I enjoy and don’t get from the pass. For the money black ice is very good. It has very good bass punch for tubes.