Shortly after we were born, there is a good possibility we were exposed to music.
Starts much earlier, Orpheus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3759965/
And here, post birth:
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/04/20/1603984113.full
Beyond the sound of things, and into the soul of things.
Beyond the sound of things, and into the soul of things.
Hi-res audio blows MP3s and AAC files out of the water. Essential data is lost when you listen to music via MP3 files because of the lossy compression that makes these files smaller. High-Resolution Audio can replicate the whole range of sound that the artist created when recording the content. Sony understands the importance of preserving the originality of music, which is why we’ve developed Hi-Res Audio products that allow audiophiles (like you) to listen to music in the best sound quality.
I listened to a file that I had downloaded in WAV which is a higher resolution than FLAC; this was Santana "Abraxas", an LP I bought in 1970, and since that time, have worn out many copies; to say I know every note on that LP is an understatement.
When I compared that file to my pristine LP, it was first in the lineup. As I listened, "It just doesn't get any better than this," I thought.
Now it was time for the LP; as the wax spun, I was floored on the first note; it was so definitive; after that keyboard intro, Santana's guitar just hung in the air, followed by the banging notes on the keyboard again, and then those unforgettable chimes; "Singing Winds and Crying Beasts" is the most perfect instrumental ever; IMO.
While the Hi-Res sounded good, the LP in my room felt good; I was flooded with all the memories I had experienced with this music playing in the background. Does anyone remember "Black Lights"; they made ladies legs glow in the dark when they wore certain kinds of stockings, what a scintillating sight.
So many colorful memories of my misspent youth passed before me as I listened, if only I could misspend them again. That's what the LP did for me; it regenerated my soul with it's soul; LP's have life, digital is the sound after it has been stripped of it's life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn50ipwWarg
Can you relate to the "Soul" of things?
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"into the soul of things" Perspective....Words are Music...apparently poetry is okay (per the former posts)...yet A woman who wins the Nobel Prize for Literature (2007) "Prize motivation: "that epicist of the female experience, who with scepticism, fire and visionary power has subjected a divided civilisation to scrutiny." Music to my ears and my soul. MY. |
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No matter who the people are, or what the language, they will have a word for "soul"; from the Kalahari Desert to the Amazon Rain Forest, the people will have a word for soul; the essence of life in human beings. When a person dies, their soul leaves the body; since it's weightless and invisible, some people claim that it doesn't exist; but there are many things which exist that we can't see. I'm making a claim that I can prove better than you can disprove. I'm claiming that the soul of certain musical artists is captured on vinyl, and that my rig can reproduce that captured soul, to the extent that it seems as though the person is in the room. Although there is a proclivity to associate the word "soul" with African American music, I'm using it in a universal sense to include any music that projects a palpable sense of life; specifically the life that the music portrays. Bobbie Gentry's "Ode To Billie Joe" is just such a song; it projects a palpable sense of life in her neck of the woods; if you heard it on my rig, you would swear she was in the room. Since soul is both invisible and weightless, how can you prove that her soul isn't in the room? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZt5Q-u4crc How about a little more soul in the common accepted use of the word; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJOX5tCd1qs |
The meanings of words is their contribution to the meaning of an sentence. Only (indicative) sentences can be true or false. I.e. not words or terms. The so called ''correspondence'' theory of truth means that an sentence is true if it correspond with the reality. Sets, classes and properties means the same in logic. Properties are not imaginable without some bearer of the property while ''bearers'' can be seen as members of an set or class. A set can consist of one member only: a set with one member. Anyway words don't legislate about the truth. Otherwise the vocabulary would be all we need to discover the truth. If high school education lack in subjects of philosophy of science and logic then we get such contributions about ''the soul'' as in this thread. |
Ron, I'm a technician who is comfortable with a plethora of measuring instruments; I have discovered that they're useless when you get into the highest echelon of HEA. Although HEA is not cheap, the "highest echelon" does not mean megabuck components. I am in the group of people who are driven by the desire to hear "the essence" of music in their listening room. Initially, I had SS. Since it had very high specifications, that appealed to me. One day it broke; that's when I decided to see what the fuss was about those ancient noisy tubes; after all, my SS was close to 0 distortion and noise, which the tubes could not match. I was given a "loaner" CJ PV-10; it was noisy with bad tubes in one channel, but it reproduced music that could clearly be heard in spite of the noise and distortion. Now there are tube components as quiet as SS; plus, they reproduce music as opposed to sounds. I suppose everyone knows that motion pictures are no more than a series of still photographs. Eyes are different from ears; that fact has never bothered anyone, we still see the illusion of people in motion. "Music", not sounds, but music, is much more complex. Music is about us, as living beings with an inner component that I call a "soul". Music resonates with that inner component, some musicians project that component; a rig that reproduces that component in a listening room is of the highest order; you wont be able to just walk in and get one off the shelf, you can't just throw money at it, and expect it to appear; you have to work for it. Back to motion pictures as compared to audio; when audio is treated the same as motion pictures, we get the sound of music, but there is something missing; it's the emotional component I call "soul". |
Nandric, you have stated my past philosophy. When you have lived as long as I have, along the way, you will discover that the most important aspects of your life can not be proven to even exist. If high school education lack in subjects of philosophy of science and logic then we get such contributions about ''the soul'' as in this thread. |
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Black light posters, bongs, and "head shops"; where one was met by the sweet fragrance of incense; where those of one mind could debate the merits of various Turkish pipes; I remember it as if it was yesterday, with all of those black light posters lining the walls; these are visions incited by the music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45cYwDMibGo |
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The vices we had in our youth are almost forgotten memories that can be triggered by music. My thesis is that the intensity of the memory is dependent on the quality and intensity of the music; the ultimate rig would bring back the memory associated with the music in life like detail. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPJ6SYQ5Fk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkxFhFRFDA |
I'm a music lover who grew up listening to music from the 60's and 70's, many from a handheld transistor radio. My parents owned a radio that sat on top of our fridge that played mostly one AM station on Sunday mornings and a record player that was supported in a 4 legged cabinet. I got my first (portable) record player for Christmas at 12 years old and with it Diana Ross and the Supremes Christmas Album (Which I still have unscratched) and a 45 from "My Fair Lady" now long lost. My first stereo (one of those record player/AM/FM contraptions) was bought at a pawn shop when I graduated from high school. I say this because not everyone grew up listening to music with great sound quality. Even as adults, not every has the means (or desire) to own vinyl AND its CD duplicate to compare. I have more than a few dozen LP's and their CD counterpart. I love the convenience of CD. I ripped the LP's that have no CD counterpart to my computer with Audacity. Not everyone has a passion to keep vinyl clean or listen to the (rare or many) clicks and pops they present or get up and flip it when one side is done or pay the price it takes to make vinyl sound better that CD. Another thing is with vinyl you HAVE to listen to every song, even if you don't like it. CD, you can skip what you don't like (probably a major reason why CD sells are bottoming out and streaming is so popular). For me, the "soul" is in the music itself. Not how it's transported. Memories can be triggered by music no matter how its transported, vinyl, CD, cassette tape, reel to reel, streamed or live. I've experienced them all at some time or other. I don't insist that one is better than the other for anyone. I know what I like and I'm fine with others enjoying music how ever they like. On another note, not all artists have their music on vinyl. Just think of all the great music we'd miss out on if they didn't exist. |
Curious thinking. We have ''all great music we'd miss out on if they didn't EXIST'' while the ''SOUL of the music EXIST in the music itself''. Identity of any entity exist in itself. This way we don't need to think about the question how properties are possible without any bearer of the property. ''Properties on their own'' so to speak. |
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Dear elisabeth, Your separation between ''true facts'' and ''less than true facts'' is as curious as properties without any bearer of the assumed properties. I mentioned truth as well falsity of statements, If one has an clear idea one can easily formulate this idea. Language is not the point. But we need to grasp what is stated in order to judge: true or false. As far as I know there are only two ''truth values'' : true or false (tertium non datur). Your ''account'' imply variations in truth depending on their complexity. I am not an expert in philosophy of science but am not aware of ''different kinds of truth''. Or different kinds of facts as mentioned above . |
@mewsickbuff Not everyone has a passion to keep vinyl clean or listen to the (rare or many) clicks and pops they present or get up and flip it when one side is done or pay the price it takes to make vinyl sound better that CD. Another thing is with vinyl you HAVE to listen to every song, even if you don’t like it. CD, you can skip what you don’t like (probably a major reason why CD sells are bottoming out and streaming is so popular). Don’t but an LP if you don’t like most of the tracks on it, buy SINGLES with one track per side or EPs with few tracks per side, buy what you like. If you want a vinyl turntable act like a CD with programmable function to play only selected tracks from each side of the LP then look for automatic turntables like Technics SL15 You can also have two turntables like many of us, it’s easy to play next track on another turntable and switch between the tables on the phono stage input selector (just like the deejays on the radio). But if you’re too lazy and all you need is background music nonstop then you don’t need vinyl, you need digital (streamed audio). You can also record your own playlist from your vinyl collection. But i don’t understand how all that digital BS can replace a vinyl collection ? P.S. When anyone is talking about clicks and pops of the vinyl media i can say for sure that this person is not a vinyl lover. I don’t clean my vinyl as a fanatic, they are just in perfect condition more or less, i use brush each time i play them, most of them are 40 years old, but i can’t hear any serious clicks and pops that makes me think of a digital alternative to playback music, no way. It’s like claiming that tape has some sort of hiss. This is a nanure of analog media! |
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