number of copies given to friends increase the chance of artist booking larger venue and retreiving larger profits from performances. it also give light bites to the recording companies-pimps profits. them are mostly interested in copyright laws, not artists. they even block artists from performing songs that they've aquired copyrights from(Fogerty as an example).
read notes on wiki about Lother album of Frank Zappa who prepared crowd to turn their tape recorders onto the radio and record his commercial free album completely FREE. all artists want YOU to hear them regardless of the contracts with pimps.
so who by definition supports artists???
RIAA? Columbia label? RCA label? ...or maybe audiophile crowd testing how this or that particular recording sounds? WRONG PICK! WRONG DIRECTION! TADAM!
listening to recorded cassette or CDR in your auto, office or home regardless weather you have or haven't an authorized purchased copy is NOT immoral or unethical. it's rather stoopid to tink dat way.
it seems that if the law tells ya ta bend over and relax yer hips, ye'r gonna b ready 100% to accept a footlong penatration while i'm ready to rise my middle finger instead and blow cigar smoke right to the face and after spit through the teeth(burp)! |
Could you post a list of recording companies I can feel good about cheating, and a list of the ones that I should feel bad about cheating (maybe artist owned?). Thanks. |
"08-22-14: Jperry
Could you post a list of recording companies I can feel good about cheating, and a list of the ones that I should feel bad about cheating (maybe artist owned?). Thanks."
You have to cheat them all, even the good ones. Otherwise you'll have a discrimination lawsuit to deal with, as well. |
OP-
what have you decided to do w/ your collection?
can I get a list of the Box Sets ?
Happy Listening. |
I know where it can be easily done, take it down to highway 61 |
Ok I still have the CDs and have not tried to sell them. Sounds like I
Need to give them away for free and ask for a donation.... |
Wrong again, Blueskies! Sorry!
If you give away the CDs you also give away the license you have to listen to the copies that you made when you ripped them to your hard drive.
Think of it this way: if you buy a ticket to see a concert, you cannot make a perfect copy of that ticket, sell the original ticket, and use the copy to gain admission to the concert. And whether you sell the original ticket or give it away really makes no difference.
And just like a CD, you can make a copy of the ticket, or you can sell (or give away) the original ticket--you just can't do both.
Hope that helps...
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Now I know why my uncle Vinny always tells me to have people meet me under the bridge with the money in a brown paper bag and not tell anyone. At this point, Blueskiephd, I think you should just go down to your nearest FBI office and turn yourself in. Something tells me that if you so much as walk out your front door with a CD in hand, the SWAT team will take you out. |
Bluesky,
Since your concern is storage space, keep the CD's by taking them out of the cases and store them in the below linked Aluminimum hard case that can hold 900 CD's. Take the plastic CD cases to the local library, my library was very appreciative when I brought them in.
http://www.meritline.com/950-discs-rolling-aluminum-cd-holder-cases-wheeled-silver---p-55537.aspx |
For OOP CDs it doesn't matter at all.
They're not generating an income neither for record companies nor for artists. They're only in the used collectible market. Feel absolutely free to copy and then sell as long as you don't share/sell your files.
Make sense?
For other than OOP, care only about Audiogon Police Department LOL! |
So what I am hearing is every person that has an issue with the sale of CD's that were copied to a hhd system have NO music they do not themselves own the original source it came from? Dam I should delete all that rap or any other music my kids own that is on MY music server. Also do not forget to delete any music your children have on your system when they move out if the above is not observed.
What about all those CD's I purchased early on that the foil separated from the plastic. The record company's never gave me new product or my money back. I even wrote them letters about it and got not replies. If the record companies are not honest .... |
Get ready for Qobuz, coming by the end of the year from France. Full CD rez FLAC streaming, probably about $30/month. And I finally got my computer server done last week . . . Oh, well . . . |
"Get ready for Qobuz, coming by the end of the year from France. Maybe, maybe not... Qobuz in Trouble |
Thanks for the update, Mofi. :( Another, "oh, well," . . . back to ripping. |
Let's try this again. Yes, Qubuz is having problems, but tidalhifi.com is coming this fall . . . I hope! |
"What about all those CD's I purchased early on that the foil separated from the plastic. The record company's never gave me new product or my money back. I even wrote them letters about it and got not replies. If the record companies are not honest ...."
When you bought the CD's, were they supposed to come with a lifetime warranty? If they were covered, I can't imagine that they would give you new CD's without sending them your defective ones. |
A known defect should be covered regardless. I held on to them waiting for a reply that never came. I would have sent them back if they asked. I figure I ate at least 1000 dollars. This problem was well known to them.
They also stated in the early days of CD's that these would be the last disks we would have to purchase and they would last forever unlike vinyl that wears out and gets scratched, to me that is a warranty. Oh I should have known it was just a sales gimmick back then like perfect sound. How about CD's would not skip like records do lol. |
So here is a thought. What if I glue all of them together
and create a large piece of Modern Art ?
I am sure one of out local art museums would pay me
$50,000 at least for such a wonderful piece of art that
was made of recycled elements.
Problem solved. |
Blueskies: At the risk of appearing to have some sort of personal vendetta against you (believe me, I really don't) let me just say this: you really don't get it!
If you create an amazing work of art with your CDs (whether you glue them together, turn them into a mobile, or coat them with bacon grease), once you transfer ownership of them (regardless of whether or not you receive monetary compensation), you have given up the license you had to make personal use of the copies that you have made. Period.
Now if you wanted to glue those CDs together to create a great work of art, I think you'd be on solid legal ground--provided that you did not transfer ownership of your amazing creation! I suppose you could then exhibit it in your home (or at your local U-Stor-It unit), and even charge admission for the privilege of viewing your masterpiece. Perhaps you'd eventually realize your $50,000 goal. You could then use the cash to purchase LEGAL downloads from, say, iTunes, and THEN you could sell (or give away) your CDs in good conscience (after erasing the rips you made from those CDs).
One thing to keep in mind, though (and this brings up an entirely different discussion which I'm not really interested in getting into right now): when you purchase a digital download, you are merely purchasing a license for personal use (kinda like buying a CD), but apparently this license is NOT TRANSFERABLE. So even if you purchase a download that you absolutely detest, and never want to hear again, you can't legally sell it or even give it away!
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Dude, I'm really having a trouble selling a black cube painting recently done for art museum for half price you were going to ask for yo's! |
Its all in the marketing, son. |
Rel, you've omitted option of non-existing digital download for out-of-print copies. whatchagonnado in that case?? |
What happens if he gets divorced and his ex wife gets the computer and he gets to keep the CD's. Assume also that the wife has no idea that the music on the HD was ripped from her husbands collection. For all she knows, they were downloads that were paid for. |
solve this problem with divorce ? Hmmmmm I hadnt thought
of that as a possible solution...
You guys are soooo helpful. |
if bad comes to worst, why not divorce? |
