Best Integrated Amp, Price no obstacle?


I listen to mostly classical and some acoustic jazz,
I would prefer a one box Integrated for space reasons
and I think solid state...but I could be talk in to or "auditioned in to" a tube piece.
Your thoughtful advice is appreciated.

Thank you.
seric56
New Audio Frontiers Supreme 300b Special Edition. I've owned this for about six months now and I'm still thrilled. For me, it's about balance. This integrated offers all the audio virtues I cherish in such a holistic way that nothing distracts me from the music.
Hows the the integrated look from the perspective on June 2010? What are the top choices today, uncluding used gear from an earlier vintage ifthey have not been bettered?
The NAD S300 (and the entire Silver series) has been discontinued. They now have the Masters series. There is an integrated amp in the line that looks like it might be ok. it has some semi-useless features like dual zone but also has some useful ones. The "tilt" tone control feature has been used by other manufacturers and it can be useful.
http://www.nadelectronics.com/mastersseries/M3_framset.htm
I heard the S300 powering a pair of Totem Hawks right before hearing the Forests powered by a Krell kav400xi in the same showroom. The Forest/Krell pairing was far superior to my ears. The NAD was somewhat 'sterile' in comparasion, but I also prefer the Forest to the Hawk as well, so this would have played a role in my impression.
i heard this amp, very average, uninvolving sound. only consider used, new way too expensive for the sound it delivers
Has anyone heard the NAD S300 Integrated amp? http://www.zerogain.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=2488
By far, if cost no object, the VAC integrated is the best. I would also say that it sounds better then any and all separates on the market. Even though it is $20K, you can probably spend twice more and get twice less. There are some exciting solid state monsters in this price range that have an awesome dynamic capability along with hard hitting bass, but you can't get better over-all sound and emotion from music as you will from the VAC.
No, according to my local dealer there was a further production delay, now expected within another month or so.

In the meantime I took another listen to the I-5 with my new speakers, Reference 3a Veenas. The I-5 sounded better than ever, and more than sufficiently powerful for these moderately sensitive speakers, rated 89db. For me therefore, the I-7 will be of more interest for the prospect of refinement of the preamp stage than for the increased wattage.
Panderso, have you since had the chance to hear the i-7? I'd be very curious to hear your impressions as I am seriously considering moving from the i-5 to the i-7.
Audio Note Ongaku, followed by the Nagra and the Concerto integrated as well as Mac 2275. Comming soon Gryphon Diabolo.
Thanks Philnyc; I spent some time on Blue Circle's website, and will read that review you linked for us.

Ellery 911; I note that a coming issue of HiFi+, #41, promises a review of the Bryston B-100 SST Integrated. I generally find that mag's reviews very worthwhile.
Panderso...thank's for the mini-review on the new Bryston integrated...it seems like there isn't much information about it out there and I have to say...I've been very curious for a looong time as I already have a B-60.
I can put in a plug for the Rogue Audio Tempest II integrated tube, $2695 retail. Large open sound, very cool running, lush voices. And it has 90watts/channel with the ability to add different amps/preamps, so its flexible.
Panderso,

Haven't been on Agon for a few days, so I missed your question to me about the Blue Circle NSCS integrated. It is a 110wpc solid state integrated with an amp stage that uses design elements from BC's 200-series amps. The base price is US$2495, with Shallco volume control upgrade options (single Shallco or dual-Shallco). Also has optional remote volume control, although this is not available together with the Shallco versions.

I haven't had a chance to do any comparisons with other integrated amps (asides from BC's entry-level CS integrated), but it has become my best-seller, and it has made it very difficult for me to sell Blue Circle's lower-priced seperates because the performance level is quite high.

Positive Feedback just published the first review:

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue21/nscsintegrated.htm
Well guys, disappointment, because the I-7 was a no-show. More precisely, the SimAudio rep showed up with a non-working prototype of the 1-7; the chassis and terminals anyhow. Said they'd decided at the last minute it wasn't quite ready; e.t.a. now October. The rep says it will fulfil the promise of more power than the 1-3, more refinement than the I-5, a better pre than the P-3 separate. I'm salivating...
He did demo the new CDP from the same Evolution series, and it sounded fine indeed, driven by Moon W5 separates through some big Maggies.

Meanwhile, I finally got a listen to the new Bryston B100 SST integrated. I should issue a disclaimer; not being personally familiar with the Bryston sound, I'm not the best guy to say how generous a scoop of Bryston you are getting. Secondly, I was listening to it in the store with other components I haven't spent a lot of time with; the MF A5 CDP, and JMLab Profile 918 speakers. I've had a fair amount of time with other members of the MF and JMLab families though.

That out of the way, it sounded very good, very competent, lots of detail, generally sweet highs, rich mids, bass to spare, etc. I didn't get a first impression that I was listening to a break-out product-at-the-price, such as my Nait 5i, but the Bryston is no slouch. At one point a vocal crescendo got a little screechy and started to break up; but I cannot say without more time whether that was one component or another, or the recording. Definitely worth a listen in its niche...around $3K Canadian, prob'ly about $2400 USd, give or take.
Panderso, I am very interested in your experiences with the I-7, so I hope you will take the time to report the result here.
Happy listening :o)

Tommy
Uniso Research Performance, 2x40 watts SET ,uses 3 Kt88 per channel,you can drve even 86 dB speakers getting tubed set sound.
This weekend, I will attend the intro of the new SimAudio I-7 at a local dealer. I'll be interested to see how it compares with the I-5, which I liked very much in my small room. Some have suggested the Plinius 9200 is similar in some respects to the I-5, but considerably better; I haven't been able to hear the latter.

Will the I-7 simply add power, or significantly enhance refinement as well? I'll report back if anyone is interested.

I'd actually like to hear more about that Blue Circle integrated from Philnyc; what price bracket, what attributes, what comparisons made etc.
Solid State, Lavardin IS reference or IT if you need the output. Sugden Masterclass also excellent.
Tube The DeHavilland Ios or the Viva Solista I use(review due out in Stereophile I'm told) Both 845's I believe.
An Audiomat Prelude Reference MKII, which is what I have. If price truly were no obstacle, the Audiomat Recital which I recently heard. Funny thing is the Prelude still sounds mighty good to me.
NEW A300SE from bvaudio. A typical example of showing that price isn't a measure of sound quality.
Hbarrel...sorry if I misinterpreted your post. It looked like you were saying the new BC unit was "just so-so". My bad.

I'm guessing that no one has talked about it much because it is relatively new...it was introduced about 3-4 months ago...
Philnyc - I asked a question? Didn't make a statement.
No one was mentioning it and having no experience with their products was wondering why.
You may want to inquire with Tube Research Labs about their new SS 225 watt integrated (ST-225).
It is $5500.
I will be hearing it in a friend's system later this month as he is going to demo with his Soundlabs.
TRL makes SOTA tube preamps and amps for very high end use ($100K+).
They really like this SS int amp.
Will let folks know what I think.
Hbarrel,

Not sure where you heard that. I may be biased because I'm a Blue Circle dealer, but I have not been more excited about a product than the new BC NSCS Integrated in a while. Quite honestly, it is making it hard for me to sell some of the lower-level BC separates...
Love the YBA Passion Integre - now Passion Integre 300. It also has a superb phono stage for peanuts. This a solid state design that sounds like single ended triodes and times more naturally than anything else I've heard.
McIntosh MA 6900 -- very musical -- hard to beat -- $4500 new and around 3K on the used market.
The DK Design VS-1 Mk2 with a tube preamp stage and a solid state output stage is liquid and crystal clear with a rather pellucid presentation. It is also a beautiful design and built like a tank. I would be very surprised if anything at any price sounds appreciably better through a high resolution system.

An all tube integrated design will not likely have a lot of bass impact unless you have very efficient speakers and Jazz and Classical contain a lot of bass information. Maybe with horns..

As far as all solid state goes, I would seriously consider the Plinius integrated even if it is relatively inexpensive. Their separate amps are easily some of the best sounding available at any price and the integrateds retain much of the same character of sound. Unless you are using ribbons or electrostatics(and even then)you'll approach the liquidity of tubes and retain the phenomenal bass response this equipment is known for.
Not heard the Musical Fidelity KW500 but the Tri-Vista bettered the Concentra II and ML383 when I was searching for a new amp.
I second Budrew's request for a comparison of the YBA Passion Integre with the Lavardin IS Reference, (or IT), by anyone who's had the chance to hear both.

While we're at it, there are some strong reviews out there for the Unison Unico SE and several of the Audiomat models, including the Opera. Anyone had a chance to compare these?

The VAC Avatar seems to be a strong contender. Much buzz about the new DK Design Group hybrid, I'd love to hear from folk who've actually heard and compared.
Price no object, the VAC top of line is a magnificent sounding piece from a great company.
The VAC will sound musical at all times, and have factory backing second to none.
Kevin Hayes is one of the great designers around.
Without any doubt in my mind VAC Phi Integra 110W, actually it bettered 95% of all separates I have heard in CES 2005.
the Tenor OTL 75Wi integrated monoblocks are easily the finest integrated amps i have heard. you will need a reasonably easy speaker to drive.....hopefully at least 90db efficient and a fairly flat 6-8 ohm load with no big dips in the impeadence curve.

most Kharma speakers are good matches for this amp.
thanks Panderso for the correction.

I read the post quickly before work and gave my 2 cents in a hurry.
I am a reviewer for PF online, My favorites in order are:

1) JRDG CII
2) YBA Passion
3) Edge G3

I currently own the G3 and will be writing a review for it soon. Truth be told the only reason I don't own the YBA is that it did not fit on my rack (too long). This is not to knock the G3, I really enjoy the G3, fast, clean and great punchy bass. Dollar for Dollar I would rearange the list with the G3 & YBA being equally in first place.You really cannot go wrong with any on my list, ot most of the ones listed here. However, I was pretty disapointed in the MF gear...
Why price no obstacle? the Prima Luna Prologue one is out of this world....30 watts per side. I can think of a $30,000 integrated amp....but, the sound achievments of this amp are not 30 times better than the Prima Luna. Not even twice as better! Think again. Price does equivacate to preformance.