ASR is a great forum for exposing audiophile nonsense.
Audio Science Review = "The better the measurement, the better the sound" philosophy
"Audiophiles are Snobs" Youtube features an idiot! He states, with no equivocation, that $5,000 and $10,000 speakers sound equally good and a $500 and $5,000 integrated amp sound equally good. He is either deaf or a liar or both!
There is a site filled with posters like him called Audio Science Review. If a reasonable person posts, they immediately tear him down, using selected words and/or sentences from the reasonable poster as100% proof that the audiophile is dumb and stupid with his money. They also occasionally state that the high end audio equipment/cable/tweak sellers are criminals who commit fraud on the public. They often state that if something scientifically measures better, then it sounds better. They give no credence to unmeasurable sound factors like PRAT and Ambiance. Some of the posters music choices range from rap to hip hop and anything pop oriented created in the past from 1995.
Have any of audiogon (or any other reasonable audio forum site) posters encountered this horrible group of miscreants?
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@fleschler depends on what you are looking for. ASR, Audioholics, and others want you to spend money where it matters. For instance, the review on ASR for the Uptone Etherregen takes all their claims (reduce jitter, reduce noise) and tests it, and shows it doesn’t do anything at all what it claims. What I would like to see from sites like this is to do an actual full spectrum analysis from the listening position. If you A/B and you can see a difference with this, then there is a true difference. |
Well you do find differences between statements an opinions on Audigon, ASR or Steve Gutenberg. All of them have their + an - an specific look on Audio. On all these sites you have people with sometimes outspoken opinions so what. I take out on these site what i find interesting. If i focus on opinions that does not fit my personal opinion ha ha i would end up in a mental institution. I want to suggest get a life it is way to short to be wasted. |
That happens here, too, and it always activates my inner BS alarm. If you're going to accuse someone of fraud, you should have real proof. And if you have real proof, you should take some kind of legal action, however small. ASR is just a place for measurementalists to gather. They can talk hi-fi without ever having to actually listen. It's very convenient. |
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