Furutech is much better and better made.
Anyone try the new Synergistic Research Orange UEF Duplex?
Can anyone please share their experiences and differences between the new Orange UEF receptacle to the Blue or Black....Or even compared to a Furutech GTX-DR NCF......
THX In advance...
THX In advance...
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Hi folks, The floating ground had me puzzled, cautious and intrigued. but this shed alot of light on the subject ... thanks ... and it explains why SR chose the somewhat odd color 'Orange' The link below explains the isolated ground receptacles. So it occurs to me, the floating ground is not really of benefit if you have a dedicated power (incl ground) for you audio gear like me. In other words, the isolated ground is isolated from the cimmon ground network of your building, which certainly is very likely to carry a lot noise. So my summation is it is safe to use if wired correctly, by connecting to at least one building ground/earth. So now I'm wondering how else this differs from the blue outlet. I am suspecting that SR may have this made with its 'magic' treated materials and components to SR specs by someone like Pass & Seymour. And I have enough SR gear to be quite confident its not snake oil. Cheers |
I decided to take one for the Audiogon team, and I purchased the SR Orange receptacle for testing in my power conditioner. The Orange receptacle does look like a standard receptacle. When comparing the SR Blue and Orange receptacles, the Orange duplex contains more of SR’s black paste than the Blue duplex. SR applies the black material on the terminal screws, and I’m guessing that it’s some sort of shungite/mica/graphene mix. The pin contacts have a greenish hue that seems to fade as you rotate the unit in the light. SR also placed a metallic sticker AKA tuning chip on the back of the unit. The mounting ears and backplate are separated from the body and ground pin by a barely visible piece of plastic underneath. The plastic insulation must be what makes this an isolated ground receptacle. Now, where do I install this? The design of my conditioner uses two unpainted strips of the case as a busbar for all three receptacles. The strips of exposed metal are what the mounting ears connect to on the chassis. The first receptacle has all the wires attached to it, including a ground cable. The first slot seems like the most logical position of where it should go. I could also install it at the end of the chain, in the number 3 slot. The number 3 slot is just above the IEC inlet and has convenient access to the IEC ground and bypasses approximately two feet of wire. The ground for the two other receptacles leads to a filter circuit that sits behind the faceplate, and another cable connects it to the IEC ground. The number 3 slot is where I chose to install the Orange receptacle. It’s where the computer and IPS monitor draw power from the conditioner. The installation was straight forward. The ground wire I chose to use is 16 AWG solid core OCC Neotech wire at around 7 inches in length. I stripped 3 inches of insulation from the center of the wire and wrapped it around the Orange ground pin. The ends were soldered together with Mundorf Supreme solder, and this end is what connects to the Furutech FI-09 NCF inlet. This technique effectively makes 13 gauge wire using two 16 gauge wire ends from the ground pin to the EIC. It’s important to point out that I’m using two tweaks on my power conditioner: a PPT E+ mat and an Akiko Audio DIY Harmonizer Unit. The E+ mat sits on top of the conditioner. The Harmonizer is a grounding device that is connected directly to the EIC ground. The FI-09 NCF inlet now has (1) the Orange’s ground wires attached along with (2) the circuit board ground and (3) the DIY Harmonizer ground cable. I’m quite sure that these tweaks affect the results that I’m about to explain. I complete the project, connected all of the power plugs, and turned on my computer and monitor. The first thing that I thought when my monitor turned on was that there was a problem with the installation or the Orange duplex itself. The colors were so vibrant and saturated. I logged in and was astonished at the wallpaper colors. The monitor has never looked this good. The text was much clearer, and websites with white backgrounds were no longer fatiguing to my eyes. Keep in mind that I’m using an aging monitor that has a very slight backlight flicker. I wanted to upgrade the monitor, but the Orange duplex has given it a new breath of life. Soundwise, my system stepped up to another level of dimensionality. The sound stage separation was improved, and macro details were more comfortable to hear. The Orange duplex costs $285, but it makes my system sound much more expensive. |
The link below explains the isolated ground receptacles. https://www.thespruce.com/what-are-isolated-ground-receptacles-1152789 |
Dear @bacardi : This SR item is the audiophile " food ": absolutely SNAKE OIL for we stupid audiophiles as other " thousands " of after market audio items made it expressly for audiophiles that are looking for that " food " as: fuses, cables, resistors, capacitors, et, etc. Whom of us never bougth a snake oil audio item? I did it till I learned and sooner or latter we all learn. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |
I think one main result of actually (or literally) buying in to expensive silly pseudo tweaks is the fact that many will go a long way in justifying that purchase...claiming anyone who can’t hear the amazing differences has bad ears (or at least claiming their superior hearing is what makes this stuff work for them), or when asked about the ridiculous claims of "Inductive Quantum Coupling" or "molecular realignment process" simply say "well, it works for me so I don’t care"...it’s simply elitism from the insecure who assume things MUST work or why would they, those with imagined lofty tastes and abilities , have shelled out the big bucks? In spite of what’s claimed about nonsensical magic junk the vast majority of audio geeks and gear designers ignore it. |
’They’ can say anything ’They’ want.. That doesn’t mean ’They’ know what ’They’ are talking about. It is obvious the guy that wrote up the ad hasn’t a clue about building electrical grounding systems. georgehifi said: That’s great isn’t it, the ones selling the product don’t know what the they’re talking about! Is it that SR is ignorant or is it the gullible buying public? Somehow I don’t think SR is ignorant..... Caveat Emptor Jim |
They’ can say anything ’They’ want.. That doesn’t mean ’They’ know what ’They’ are talking about. That’s great isn’t it, the ones selling the product don’t know what the they’re talking about! Wondering is any one on this thread associated with SR or their products in any way? If so please say so when posting. SR applies all Orange Fuse processes, including a multi-stage high voltage treatment first developed to improve current and voltage transfer in SR’s limited edition Galileo SX PowerCell. SR then applies the same UEF Compound developed for the Galileo SX PowerCell for SR’s most holographic duplex to date. What does this even mean? Voodoo snake oil BS, nothing more nothing less Cheers George |
Amazing, $285 for a $10 receptacle. But wait SR applies all Orange Fuse processes, including a multi-stage high voltage treatment first developed to improve current and voltage transfer in SR's limited edition Galileo SX PowerCell. SR then applies the same UEF Compound developed for the Galileo SX PowerCell for SR's most holographic duplex to date.What does this even mean? |
georgehifi6,926 posts @georgehifi ’They’ can say anything ’They’ want.. That doesn’t mean ’They’ know what ’They’ are talking about. It is obvious the guy that wrote up the ad hasn’t a clue about building electrical grounding systems. I agree with you floating the equipment ground can be dangerous. Can the equipment ground of an IG (Isolated Ground) outlet be installed on a branch and leave the ground contact of the outlet floating above ground? YES.... Just don’t connect the equipment ground wire to the duplex receptacle IG ground terminal. Of course for around a couple of bucks the user could buy a ground cheater and accomplish the same thing on their existing duplex receptacle outlet. I copied this from the SR website. Global MSRP $285.00https://www.synergisticresearch.com/accessories/power/uef-orange-duplex/ Retail price for the Pass & Seymour IG5362 outlet is around $10.00 Jim . |
I checked and their website said floating ground as
tul32ley posted, The Orange Duplex starts with a new floating groundWith a floating ground on all your audio equipment if something goes wrong, all the equipment chassis have the potential to go to full mains potential, DEADLY!!!! Cheers George |
georgehifi6,923 posts georgehifi It’s just an IG (Isolated Ground) duplex receptacle I believe, The base duplex receptacle the Synergistic Research Orange UEF Duplex starts out with is a P&S IG5362. Now keep in mind SR can not disassemble and then reassemble the duplex receptacle in anyway. Doing so will void its’ UL listing. It also is against the NEC. So SR has to preform its’ magic to the outlet without opening it up. IG5362 Pass & Seymour https://www.legrand.us/passandseymour/receptacles/fed-spec-grade/heavy-duty-isolated-ground/ig5362.a... Jim. |
The Orange Duplex starts with a new floating ground to lower your system's noise floor My Lowes Life. |
Crickets. Imagine it would be like going from Blue to Orange Fuse, more of everything including a very satisfying sense of refinement. In other words pretty much like everything else I have ever tried from SR in like 30 years. If you need an outlet, Orange you glad Synergistic just came out with a new one? |
