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when u get stuck in your old cheap vehicle, you can call AAA. |
perkri, in order to make a valid comparison between AAA and DDD you would have to record the exact same performance and route the mic feed to both an analog and digital recording system and carry the format through production of the consumer product be it a CD, File or record. Otherwise you can't make a valid comparison. Saying that "something is missing between the bits" is an admission of lack of understanding how a DAC works. This is just lay instinct. This is not to say that one format might not sound better than the other but you have to understand that sounding "better" is not synonymous with sounding "accurate". I think it is well understood that certain distortions are pleasing and universally so. This is the most obvious reason for a large proportion of audiophiles preferring vinyl, a format which can not be nearly as accurate as a high resolution digital one.
I have an original pressing of Von Karajan's complete Beethoven Symphonies. Got it for my 16th Birthday. |
"Digital recording and playback is like Kraft cheese versus artisanal cheese!"
I'd suggest such assertions of "superiority" by those who worship at the shrine of analogue/vinyl are only likley to impress fellow cultists. . .
I've heard very expensive vinyl based systems... do they sound good ? Yes. Do they sound better to me than my digital system? No. Of course, this "proves" I can't hear worth a damn, right? Otherwise, I'd be a fellow worshipper.
So goeth the "logic"...
This is one of those themes, akin to "cables are snake oil" that I find exceedingly tedious.
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fiesta75 I have a vinyl copy of Zappa’s Joe’s Garage, DDA. It’s excellent. You got that right, this is one of the "very rare ones" that weren’t compressed (crushed) the later the re-issues that were released, never got touched or butchered much. Great DR from 1979 all they to 2021 witch is streamed, very unusual to see this!!! For memory I think maybe Zapper is part member/contributors that started the Dynamic Range Website, along with Neil Young, Clapton and a few others that that started this site and that are dead against compression https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Frank+Zappa&album=Joe%27s+GarageCheers George |
I have a vinyl copy of Zappa's Joe's Garage, DDA. It's excellent. |
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To add to that +1, I'll always also go for the "version release" that gets the best DR (dynamic range) figures from here, and it's never let me down https://dr.loudness-war.info/Cheers George |
We need the AAA physical format reinvented in high resolution with a new substrate. |
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DDD is the best CD recordings typically, ADD next. But I take what I can get! |
I was listening to an album in sacd last night in my BelCanto PL1. I was very impressed with how closely it resembled the original recording and was enjoying the music until, about 40 minutes in, I started to get "aural fatigue". I thought it was my mood or my system. I felt like my ears were responding to an almost imperceptible scrim of noise over the proceedings, especially louder, complex passages. So I pulled out my original vinyl and played the same passages on my VPI HRX with Lyra Atlas cart. No fatigue. The sound was better and more natural. I think digital gets better every year and I listen to more digital than vinyl based on convenience. But all of the advancements in digital technology have yet to match the primitive process of running a needle over vinyl grooves. |
I've been a 'vinyl head' all my life but many (most?) new LPs are ProTools digitally mastered anyway & often sound fabulous compared to some older 60s-70s albums which can be thin or dull sounding.
I prefer to focus on how the music SOUNDS rather than how it was PRODUCED.!
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All music recording starts as an analog process - sound waves into a microphone. It is best captured on analog tape and then transferred to a laquer disk via a cutting lathe. The final product being the lp. Very little is lost in the process. This is a mature technology. And is best listened to via turntable/cartridge/phono stage. Digital recording and playback is like Kraft cheese versus artisanal cheese! |
I would call "the mistake" in analogue production "colouration" or "harmonic distortion." I'm not sure which is more difficult, analogue or digital production. With analogue, there is the constant concern to reduce noise and prevent distortion which doesn't occur in digital. However, the nature of analogue equipment provides us with the richness and organic sound you speak of.
There is a difference in sonics between the two domains even in modern recording. But digital production and playback has come a long way. Now the mastering process has become much more significant in how the final product sounds.
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Yup. I can hear if a recording is digital. It has a dark blue-grey veil over the music.
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